Overclocking Question

Reply

Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 317
Reputation: rcrevolution is an unknown quantity at this point 
Solved Threads: 2
rcrevolution's Avatar
rcrevolution rcrevolution is offline Offline
Posting Whiz

Overclocking Question

 
0
  #1
Dec 7th, 2004
Ok , i overclocked my amd 64 3400+ from 2.210Ghz to 2.258Ghz. I dont know if I am paraniod or what but my pc seemed to get a 20% speed increase my folders open up quicker and I got 7 extra FPS in CSS. now I have left my pc running for 2 hours at 2.258Ghz and the temp is still at 42C constantly, and nothing seems to be going wrong.

the question is this, am i safe at 2.258Ghz? it is .048Ghz faster thats it
"You say you want to see power?"
Then look at my avatar :twisted:
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message  
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 82
Reputation: oenone is an unknown quantity at this point 
Solved Threads: 0
oenone oenone is offline Offline
Junior Poster in Training

Re: Overclocking Question

 
0
  #2
Dec 7th, 2004
Originally Posted by rcrevolution
Ok , i overclocked my amd 64 3400+ from 2.210Ghz to 2.258Ghz. I dont know if I am paraniod or what but my pc seemed to get a 20% speed increase my folders open up quicker and I got 7 extra FPS in CSS. now I have left my pc running for 2 hours at 2.258Ghz and the temp is still at 42C constantly, and nothing seems to be going wrong.

the question is this, am i safe at 2.258Ghz? it is .048Ghz faster thats it
Personally, I think that overclocking a brand new system is silly if your only going to use it for gaming, but maybe thats just me. The overclock you performed was only 48mhz, which is pretty small by todays standards. You probably don't need to expect a big meltdown, though any overclock presents a risk. The chip was designed to run at at the speed they clock it at. Any more than that and you are risking the chip. If you computer is running at more than stock speeds it is never safe, though with such a small overclock the main thing you have to worry about is that your chip will die faster due to the extra load on it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message  
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 317
Reputation: rcrevolution is an unknown quantity at this point 
Solved Threads: 2
rcrevolution's Avatar
rcrevolution rcrevolution is offline Offline
Posting Whiz

Re: Overclocking Question

 
0
  #3
Dec 7th, 2004
what is clock spread spectrum? and does it affect my performance?
"You say you want to see power?"
Then look at my avatar :twisted:
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message  
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 295
Reputation: szukalski is an unknown quantity at this point 
Solved Threads: 1
szukalski szukalski is offline Offline
Posting Whiz in Training

Re: Overclocking Question

 
0
  #4
Dec 8th, 2004
48MHz is barely an overclock (2.258/2.210=1.02, a 2% oc), not sure how you got that 20% speed increase.
I wouldn't worry much about being "safe" at this minor oc.
As long as your voltages are at stock, you should be fairly safe oc'ing to what you can, provided you have adequate airflow/cooling.
IF you overclock, you are gambling with your equipment. Luckily, it's not casino odds, more like, what do you feel comfortable running at.
When you say you left your pc running for 2hrs, was this testing?
I recommend using something like Prime95 to test the stability of your system. Let it run for a few hrs, or 12, and monitor your system temp to make sure nothing's going wayward. It will yield errors and stop if your system isn't stable.
A good program to test how hot your cpu will get is StressCPU, which uses a lot of cpu calculations and heats it up good and proper in a matter of minutes, giving a good indication of what CPU temperature to expect under load.
I also come from the school that says "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". ie. if you don't need the power, don't play the BIOS.
However... that was BEFORE I started playing with my BIOS and got addicted in this power struggle. (I bet it's god syndrome).
Overclocking is for geeks. I'm such a geek.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message  
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 32
Reputation: rogue-monkey is an unknown quantity at this point 
Solved Threads: 1
rogue-monkey rogue-monkey is offline Offline
Light Poster

Re: Overclocking Question

 
0
  #5
Dec 8th, 2004
Aye, you're probably right concerning the odds that his computer will crash. I also agree that I don't know how you were able to get such huge speed increases from a 48 mhz overclock. Was it 7 fps faster in the video stress test, or just normal gaming.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message  
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 317
Reputation: rcrevolution is an unknown quantity at this point 
Solved Threads: 2
rcrevolution's Avatar
rcrevolution rcrevolution is offline Offline
Posting Whiz

Re: Overclocking Question

 
0
  #6
Dec 8th, 2004
it was just game the game ran smother, but what is clock spread spectrum?
"You say you want to see power?"
Then look at my avatar :twisted:
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message  
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 295
Reputation: szukalski is an unknown quantity at this point 
Solved Threads: 1
szukalski szukalski is offline Offline
Posting Whiz in Training

Re: Overclocking Question

 
0
  #7
Dec 8th, 2004
When the motherboard's clock generator pulses, the extreme values (spikes) of the pulses creates EMI (Electromagnetic Interference). The Spead Spectrum function reduces the EMI generated by modulating the pulses so that the spikes of the pulses are reduced to flatter curves. It does so by varying the frequency so that it doesn't use any particular frequency for more than a moment. This reduces interference problems with other electronics in the area.

However, while enabling Spread Spectrum decreases EMI, system stability and performance may be slightly compromised. This may be especially true with timing-critical devices like clock-sensitive SCSI devices.

Some BIOSes offer a Smart Clock option. Instead of modulating the frequency of the pulses over time, Smart Clock turns off the AGP, PCI and SDRAM clock signals when not in use. Thus, EMI can be reduced without compromising system stability. As a bonus, using Smart Clock can also help reduce power consumption.

If you do not have any EMI problem, leave the setting at Disabled for optimal system stability and performance. But if you are plagued by EMI, use the Smart Clock setting if possible and settle for Enabled or one of the two other values if Smart Clock is not available. The percentage values denote the amount of jitter (variation) that the BIOS performs on the clock frequency. So, a lower value (0.25%) is comparatively better for system stability while a higher value (0.5%) is better for EMI reduction. Remember to disable Spread Spectrum if you are overclocking because even a 0.25% jitter can introduce a temporary boost in clockspeed of 25MHz (with a 1GHz CPU) which may just cause your overclocked processor to lock up. Or at least use the Smart Clock setting as that doesn't involve any modulation of the frequency.
This was found through the search function here.
Overclocking is for geeks. I'm such a geek.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message  
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 13
Reputation: Shadowgrip is an unknown quantity at this point 
Solved Threads: 0
Shadowgrip's Avatar
Shadowgrip Shadowgrip is offline Offline
Newbie Poster

Re: Overclocking Question

 
0
  #8
Feb 12th, 2005
I've got a 64 3400+ newcastle I just got Friday, and I have it oc'd to 2.69, granted I have an xp-120 and a thermaltake 120 mm fan on it, but as this is my first oc attempt, i'm chalking it up to a success, and I say, what better time than when the components are new than to overclock? I only say this b.c I got it on a credit card that covers it for 90 days agains accidental damage, so if i do fry it, they will buy me a new one, and i'll know not to run it that high. lol
Last edited by Shadowgrip; Feb 12th, 2005 at 6:50 pm. Reason: typo
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message  
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 295
Reputation: szukalski is an unknown quantity at this point 
Solved Threads: 1
szukalski szukalski is offline Offline
Posting Whiz in Training

Re: Overclocking Question

 
0
  #9
Feb 13th, 2005
Shadowgrip, what volts are you running through your cpu?
What board, ram? Is it prime95 stable?
Just curious.. do you know the week of manufacture of the cpu?
Overclocking is for geeks. I'm such a geek.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message  
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 3,826
Reputation: Catweazle is a jewel in the rough Catweazle is a jewel in the rough Catweazle is a jewel in the rough Catweazle is a jewel in the rough 
Solved Threads: 144
Team Colleague
Catweazle Catweazle is offline Offline
Grandad

Re: Overclocking Question

 
0
  #10
Feb 13th, 2005
Originally Posted by oenone
Personally, I think that overclocking a brand new system is silly if your only going to use it for gaming, but maybe thats just me.
Considering 3D games are about the most taxing task you can put your PC to work at, just what use WOULD you consider to be a worthwhile one to overclock for?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message  
Reply

This thread is more than three months old.
Perhaps start a new thread instead?
Message:



Other Threads in the Motherboards, CPUs and RAM Forum
Thread Tools Search this Thread



About Us | Contact Us | Advertise | DaniWeb | Acceptable Use Policy | RSS Feed

©2003 - 2009 DaniWeb® LLC