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About a week ago I made a thread on this forum regarding some virus stuff. It may ormay not be related. Google suggests that I may have possibly gotten a HaxDoor virus, but if I did I don't really have a way of getting rid of it without being able to boot my computer. I'm fairly sure that *isn't* the problem, however, due to never having the primary symptom of it: something about a log being created and to help Microsoft out by sending it, or something.
It can be found here:
http://www.daniweb.com/forums/thread153184.html
This issue was not yet resolved at the time of crash, and has mostly been put on hold for now due to the whole not being able to boot thing.
Anyway. I am assuming while a virus may not help, that it is not the thing stopping me from being able to boot. That said, onto my situation:
Well the other day I was playing a game and my computer suddenly crashed with a bluescreen. Not entirely sure what all it said, in all honesty I didn't read much since it happens to other people sometimes and they usually come right back. From what I understood it was likely a memory dump, or something.
Anyway. As a reult I now get a stop error message 0x0000008E (0xC0000005, 0x04682DE, 0xF78BD85C, 0x00000000)
I've tried booting in safe mode, I always get this same stop error. I've tried last known good configuration, same thing, and of course normal mode is the same thing. I began to think I had a corrupt boot file, so I tried booting from a floppy. I used Command Prompt to use the following commands after formatting the floppy disk:
xcopy c:\boot.ini a: /h
xcopy c:\ntdetect.com a: /h
xcopy c:\ntldr a: /h
So I copied over boot.ini, ntdetect.com, and ntldr. When inserting this into my problematic machine, it told me it could not boot due to missing the file "hal.dll".
I then tried to use the XP CD (apparently setup CD does not equal a bootable CD) to boot, and it would not simply boot, but took me into setup. I decided to go with the flow and it told me that "it could not detect an installed hard drive", when I selected the option to try and repair the XP installation, as opposed to creating a new one, again with the goal of trying to keep information intact.
The strange part, to me, is that the setup menu still detects the drive and gives me all the basic information. 80 gigabytes, the code, specs etc
I've tried swapping SATA cables (I had a spare) and to no avail, it still tells me it cannot find a drive connected.
This is becoming sort of problematic. What I'm wanting to do is recover information from the drive that's rather important (and I didn't have the foresight to backup), make backups, and reformat the drive. Reformatting is easy enough (maybe? assuming I can get the drive recognized, but I believe that's the core of the problem), I'm just trying to get it "back to normal" so to speak, even if temporarily.
In setup i've tried turning the drive on and off, and nothing. I had a bluescreen problem about 18-24 months ago that was fixed via changing the SATA opertation from RAID/Autodetect otherwise AHCI, to Combination, and back, and it was fixed with all information intact (likely due to never having used RAID), and tried that this time, although this time it did not work.
But after all that that, and still having no results, one of the main things that puzzles me is tha my system setup menu detects it, but when running XP setup to repair, it does not detect the drive.
Does anyone recognize the problem/have any ideas that could help? I unfortunately don't have a lot of extra money to pay Geek Squad to just hand it to 'em and say "fix it", not to mention I'm not entirely ure if they offer refunds if I can't get the drive's information off of it.
An afterthought after all this - would it be possible to put the drive on a seperate computer (with the same operating system, XP home edition), and attempt to access it with aforementioned computer's primary drive still running? I wonder if it would help: One, to see if my drive is recognized by a computer that is working fine. and two, to see if any information is accessible. Would that be possible or would the fact both drives have an OS be a problem?
It can be found here:
http://www.daniweb.com/forums/thread153184.html
This issue was not yet resolved at the time of crash, and has mostly been put on hold for now due to the whole not being able to boot thing.
Anyway. I am assuming while a virus may not help, that it is not the thing stopping me from being able to boot. That said, onto my situation:
Well the other day I was playing a game and my computer suddenly crashed with a bluescreen. Not entirely sure what all it said, in all honesty I didn't read much since it happens to other people sometimes and they usually come right back. From what I understood it was likely a memory dump, or something.
Anyway. As a reult I now get a stop error message 0x0000008E (0xC0000005, 0x04682DE, 0xF78BD85C, 0x00000000)
I've tried booting in safe mode, I always get this same stop error. I've tried last known good configuration, same thing, and of course normal mode is the same thing. I began to think I had a corrupt boot file, so I tried booting from a floppy. I used Command Prompt to use the following commands after formatting the floppy disk:
xcopy c:\boot.ini a: /h
xcopy c:\ntdetect.com a: /h
xcopy c:\ntldr a: /h
So I copied over boot.ini, ntdetect.com, and ntldr. When inserting this into my problematic machine, it told me it could not boot due to missing the file "hal.dll".
I then tried to use the XP CD (apparently setup CD does not equal a bootable CD) to boot, and it would not simply boot, but took me into setup. I decided to go with the flow and it told me that "it could not detect an installed hard drive", when I selected the option to try and repair the XP installation, as opposed to creating a new one, again with the goal of trying to keep information intact.
The strange part, to me, is that the setup menu still detects the drive and gives me all the basic information. 80 gigabytes, the code, specs etc
I've tried swapping SATA cables (I had a spare) and to no avail, it still tells me it cannot find a drive connected.
This is becoming sort of problematic. What I'm wanting to do is recover information from the drive that's rather important (and I didn't have the foresight to backup), make backups, and reformat the drive. Reformatting is easy enough (maybe? assuming I can get the drive recognized, but I believe that's the core of the problem), I'm just trying to get it "back to normal" so to speak, even if temporarily.
In setup i've tried turning the drive on and off, and nothing. I had a bluescreen problem about 18-24 months ago that was fixed via changing the SATA opertation from RAID/Autodetect otherwise AHCI, to Combination, and back, and it was fixed with all information intact (likely due to never having used RAID), and tried that this time, although this time it did not work.
But after all that that, and still having no results, one of the main things that puzzles me is tha my system setup menu detects it, but when running XP setup to repair, it does not detect the drive.
Does anyone recognize the problem/have any ideas that could help? I unfortunately don't have a lot of extra money to pay Geek Squad to just hand it to 'em and say "fix it", not to mention I'm not entirely ure if they offer refunds if I can't get the drive's information off of it.
An afterthought after all this - would it be possible to put the drive on a seperate computer (with the same operating system, XP home edition), and attempt to access it with aforementioned computer's primary drive still running? I wonder if it would help: One, to see if my drive is recognized by a computer that is working fine. and two, to see if any information is accessible. Would that be possible or would the fact both drives have an OS be a problem?
Last edited by Zeke801; Oct 29th, 2008 at 5:02 am. Reason: Details on previous problem
Well, to answer your last question. Yes, you can take out your hard drive and slave it to another computer to get hold of your data. If done correctly, it should show up on the other computer's cpanel as a drive D or similar like Drive C. Just make sure you know the basics on how to remove your harddrave, how to change the pins to set it to slave, and how to install it in the other computer.
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I kind of have an update. Unfortunately this machine is an IDE so I can't put the drive on it to get the data and reformat.
ANyway. I think the reason the setup CD told me I don't have any hard drives was actually because I turned off using them as a boot device to make sure the CD was used instead, and as a result I'm fairly sure that's why they wouldn't boot.
So I put them back on the boot sequence list, below CD-ROM, and I got to the point where it said Press any key to boot from cd...
And I did. It began booting, much like it was booting without a CD. It gave me the safe mode/last good config/normal options, and once again I tried all three and got the same error message.
ANyway. I think the reason the setup CD told me I don't have any hard drives was actually because I turned off using them as a boot device to make sure the CD was used instead, and as a result I'm fairly sure that's why they wouldn't boot.
So I put them back on the boot sequence list, below CD-ROM, and I got to the point where it said Press any key to boot from cd...
And I did. It began booting, much like it was booting without a CD. It gave me the safe mode/last good config/normal options, and once again I tried all three and got the same error message.
OK, so there is progress. You should remember you have about 5 seconds to do the "press any key from cd...." if missed, it will boot from your drive.
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You may also try to power off your pc, and then disconnect the backup battery from the mobo, disconnect and reconnect HD, wait a couple of minutes, and then reconnect, power up and reboot.
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Have you checked the raid/sata drivers? The standard XP cd does not contain raid drivers.
Also is it XP home or XP Pro, I once had a similar problem with XP Home. I was trying to set up raid and found that xp home has no support for raid. The machine would boot the the black windows screen and then restart, the resolution was to disable raid in the bios.
Also is it XP home or XP Pro, I once had a similar problem with XP Home. I was trying to set up raid and found that xp home has no support for raid. The machine would boot the the black windows screen and then restart, the resolution was to disable raid in the bios.
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