check this out, it was released, and i think i might buy one! btw, which of the cards on this page is the best a) performance and b) value???

http://www.techbuy.com.au/search.asp...pe=ALL&x=0&y=0

awww, crap! my ga-8Idml-C motherboard only has AGP4x support i know i can still put these cards in at 4x, but how drastic will the drop in graphic quality be?

At this current moment the difference won't be too bad at all. Even AGP 4X provides quite a bit of bandwidth It will run a tad slower on the more demanding applications, but nothing too significant. Also, those prices on that website are crazy! 700 USD for a X800XT PE is extortion! Again, there is a very good chance that none of these places actually ave the card. My Friend ordered it from one place that had it quoted as "in stock", only to recieve a message that essentially told him it was, in fact, out of stock. He tried other stores as well, with similar results. I highly recommend getting either the 6800GT (value) or 6800 ultra (maximum performance). Please note that you will probably need a more robust power supply for any of these cards, 500W would be the best!

the quoted prices are AUD! and that (i think) is actually quite reasonable, now that you know this, do u think its still bad value? Ill prob get a Ultra and save a little on the highest ATI cards (maybe even a GT if i want other upgrades)!

EDIT: power supply ey never knew anything (or actaully cared) about this, but know i must research into it! The more Watts the higher the bill ey? also, how do i find out what my current supply is?

First off, yes did know they were in AUD... 950 or so AUD comes out to about 700 USD... which is completely ridiculous. They are overcharging you 200-150 USD! To run an ultra with decent stability a 480W PSU is recommended, though 500W would be better. Again, the X800XT PE is literally nonexistant. Look for a price of 470-510 USD when buying the 6800 ultra. If you can, go for one of the Gainward or BFG ones, they are very good manufacturers. The BFG ones come factory overclocked as well!

well we get ripped of ridiculously here for hardware and i really doubt i can get one for 470-510US the only place i can find bfg is ebay and they are cheap but im not getting it off ebay!

ok the 850XT good luck if you find it for under $800, not to mention upgrade your mobo, the X850XT pe newegg has them for $550 and they are out of stock 90% of the time. the ultra is a good card, but at that price a GT is better.

Now I know Im gonna have people freak out but read this corectly, the Gt does not perform better then the Ultra, but $100-$150 for that little of a performance difference the Gt is worth it way for then a Ultra.

Although i know that GT is worse than Ultra, how much? IE. frames per second difference in games (i know every game is coded different but a rough guess will be fine)

You can expect a difference between 3 and 30 fps on most newer games... it really depends on the settings. For example, if you played half life 2 with a low resolution and no AA or AF there would be a very small gain with the ultra. On the other hand, if you were playing it with a much higher resolution, with AA and AF enabled, you can expect some very significant performance increases.

hmm, maybe ill just go Ultra because technology wont catch up to it that quickly and im going to have SLI on my new PC!