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Originally Posted by Narue
>what i meant was that there would be 4 bytes of 0's at the end
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>also, i never said i was a hacker.
Then you're not in a position to say what they are or are not.
>he isn't trying to be a hacker.
That's a shame. Anyone who uses computers for more than email and word processing should strive to be a hacker.
>i haven't read them all, but i dont think they do
Why don't you read them, then you can say for sure if they do or not. :rolleyes:
>hacking is all about 2 things: learning, and breaking into systems.
No. Hacking is about discovery. Cracking is about removing boundaries. One prefers to create, the other prefers to destroy. It's best not to mix them up, even though you may find people who can be described as either depending on the circumstances.
>your idea of it was a total whitehat idea.
No, my idea of it was the view of a hacker. If you want my view of a cracker, then so be it. A true cracker is amoral, there's no distinction between whitehat and blackhat. Those terms are useful for describing the two common divisions of crackers to laymen, but they're nothing more than superficial descriptions of what crackers are.
Of course, the majority of "crackers" are actually mindless losers who may understand the technical aspects, but completely fail to grasp the concept of cracking. Those are the ones that get a kick out of breaking things (and typically get arrested), or the ones that try to show off their skills in a vain attempt to garner recognition.
>you're brainwashed by the security industry and you don't even know it.
You're an amusing person.Keep it coming, I'm enjoying this. You might even come to realize that you're the one who's been brainwashed by stereotypes..
you are a complete whitehat. whatever. believe what you want... only a real hacker can comprehend what i am talking about. you are not mentally capable of this concept of "blackhat and whitehat." typically anyone who calls themself a cracker is someone who circumvents security on programs, like "try and buy" and "30-day trial" software. a hacker is someone who circumvents system security to break in and get access, preferably to the root/administrator account(s). a whitehat is someone who learns all they can about hacking, but doesn't actually hack; they try to post to bugtraq about the latest vulnerabilities. normally whitehats make money off of selling 0day exploits for CERT or some other company. often whitehats are also narqs. blackhats use their knowledge in computers to break into systems, and don't disclose the vulnerabilities they find, or the exploits they write, or the techniques they use to exploit these vulnerabilities. whitehats aren't really hackers, because they never actually hack anything outside of their own network, unless given permission (what a bunch of pussies!). you won't often see a REAL blackhat call themself a cracker. they'd call themself a hacker, or a "blackhat hacker." but you don't have any real hacker friends, since you don't like the idea of breaking the law.
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Originally Posted by loller
you are a complete whitehat. whatever. believe what you want... only a real hacker can comprehend what i am talking about. you are not mentally capable of this concept of "blackhat and whitehat." typically anyone who calls themself a cracker is someone who circumvents security on programs, like "try and buy" and "30-day trial" software. a hacker is someone who circumvents system security to break in and get access, preferably to the root/administrator account(s). a whitehat is someone who learns all they can about hacking, but doesn't actually hack; they try to post to bugtraq about the latest vulnerabilities. normally whitehats make money off of selling 0day exploits for CERT or some other company. often whitehats are also narqs. blackhats use their knowledge in computers to break into systems, and don't disclose the vulnerabilities they find, or the exploits they write, or the techniques they use to exploit these vulnerabilities. whitehats aren't really hackers, because they never actually hack anything outside of their own network, unless given permission (what a bunch of pussies!). you won't often see a REAL blackhat call themself a cracker. they'd call themself a hacker, or a "blackhat hacker." but you don't have any real hacker friends, since you don't like the idea of breaking the law.
You sound like the countless losers who read a few editions of 2600 and suddenly think they're experts. And also as expected, you've shown absolutely no depth of knowledge to add credibility to the nonsense you've been spouting. Member of: Beautiful Code Club.
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Originally Posted by Narue
Just what I expected, and you didn't disappoint me. Keep it coming, you're a funny guy.You sound like the countless losers who read a few editions of 2600 and suddenly think they're experts. And also as expected, you've shown absolutely no depth of knowledge to add credibility to the nonsense you've been spouting.
2600 == whitehats. no way would i read those. i do know fred, though.
loller, are you 16 years old? I make an exercise out of guessing people's ages based on their writing style and would like to see how accurate I am.
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Oh for Christ's sake, folks- this is really disheartening.
While I close this antagonistic, sophmoric stream of ego-stroking blather, let me leave you with a couple of words to consider:
Maturity
Professionalism
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While I close this antagonistic, sophmoric stream of ego-stroking blather, let me leave you with a couple of words to consider:
Maturity
Professionalism
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"May the Wombat of Happiness snuffle through your underbrush."
- Ancient Aborigine blessing
Please do not contact me by email or PM for help. We're all volunteers here, and only have so much free time to dedicate to our efforts.
However, if I've been working on a thread with you already, and seem to have "forgotten" your thread, please do send me a message. I try not to let things slip through the cracks, but it does happen sometimes.
- Ancient Aborigine blessing
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However, if I've been working on a thread with you already, and seem to have "forgotten" your thread, please do send me a message. I try not to let things slip through the cracks, but it does happen sometimes.
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