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Virus Programming HI!
can you guide me about writting viruses in assmbly?
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can you guide me about writting viruses in assmbly?
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Programming something more constructive, I might help with..... but virii No.
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You're asking for help in a criminal activity. Anyone rendering such help will themselves be guilty of a criminal act...
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>You're asking for help in a criminal activity.
Technically, writing a virus isn't a criminal activity. Deploying a virus is because it violates the privacy of the target systems. It's irrelevant whether the virus is benign or harmful at that point, but the more damage it does, the worse the crime is.
There are perfectly legitimate (scientific) reasons for writing and studying a virus, but only if it's contained in a clean system owned by the party doing the tests. Unfortunately, that's almost never the intention.
>but virii No.
The correct plural of virus is viruses, not virii.
Technically, writing a virus isn't a criminal activity. Deploying a virus is because it violates the privacy of the target systems. It's irrelevant whether the virus is benign or harmful at that point, but the more damage it does, the worse the crime is.
There are perfectly legitimate (scientific) reasons for writing and studying a virus, but only if it's contained in a clean system owned by the party doing the tests. Unfortunately, that's almost never the intention.
>but virii No.
The correct plural of virus is viruses, not virii.
I'm a programmer. My attitude starts with arrogance, holds steady at condescension, and ends with hostility. Get used to it.
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I stand corrected in regards to my grammar. Also, I understand that coding a virus is not a criminal activity, but regardless of the legalities, unless someone could prove that their intent is pure (creating a virus removal utility?), there is no way that I will offer any help or support on the subject.
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Originally Posted by Narue
>You're asking for help in a criminal activity.
Technically, writing a virus isn't a criminal activity. Deploying a virus is because it violates the privacy of the target systems. It's irrelevant whether the virus is benign or harmful at that point, but the more damage it does, the worse the crime is.
There are perfectly legitimate (scientific) reasons for writing and studying a virus, but only if it's contained in a clean system owned by the party doing the tests. Unfortunately, that's almost never the intention.
>but virii No.
The correct plural of virus is viruses, not virii.
I understand that asking this question is unusual and virus programming (if it damage someone computer)is criminal activity.but it was just my school project(homework).(you take it very seriously).
I believe that "virus programming" is a knowledge.(and every knowledge can be harmful or useful)
Considering that you don't know me it is logical you don't answer to this question.
but just a question:
if it is criminal activity HOW do you learn this??
and another thing:
In any case I have to (and interested in) finalize my project.
tnx.
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It's hard to say where someone learned HOW to make a virus. I mean, where did someone learn how to make Assembly? Where did someone learn how to make a word processor? Some times simply knowing the language and rules you are using you can come up with something on your own. In my past I was bent on writing a Virus, program. Just to write it of course, but I never did. I came close once, I made what I call a bug program. Like giving the computer the flu without damaging it. It caused it to crash but it didn't spread, nor was the damage permanent. It simply sucked up memory like the dickens. And I made it clear what the program was.
Sometimes, all you need is a bit of creativity and extreme knowledge of how a computer and program works. You can design something you never learned to do in the first place. The very first person to make a virus didn't learn how by being taught, but rather discovered how.
And Virus is such a general term. There are many different versions, with many different ideas of what they should do. So you'd need to be more specific. And there are a few sites made for Crackers who like to program virus's. You might want to check these out, though you'd probably hear them calling themselves Hackers so don't search for Crackers.
Oh and make sure you have some hefty Virus and firewall protection. Some of these guys are sick enough to get into each other's computers. No professional curtousy.
Not all Hacker sites are like that luckily. Many of us are just misunderstood.
Sometimes, all you need is a bit of creativity and extreme knowledge of how a computer and program works. You can design something you never learned to do in the first place. The very first person to make a virus didn't learn how by being taught, but rather discovered how.
And Virus is such a general term. There are many different versions, with many different ideas of what they should do. So you'd need to be more specific. And there are a few sites made for Crackers who like to program virus's. You might want to check these out, though you'd probably hear them calling themselves Hackers so don't search for Crackers.
Oh and make sure you have some hefty Virus and firewall protection. Some of these guys are sick enough to get into each other's computers. No professional curtousy.
Not all Hacker sites are like that luckily. Many of us are just misunderstood.
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Originally Posted by compeat
OK!
I understand that asking this question is unusual and virus programming (if it damage someone computer)is criminal activity.but it was just my school project(homework).(you take it very seriously).
I believe that "virus programming" is a knowledge.(and every knowledge can be harmful or useful)
Considering that you don't know me it is logical you don't answer to this question.
but just a question:
if it is criminal activity HOW do you learn this??
and another thing:
In any case I have to (and interested in) finalize my project.
tnx.
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Originally Posted by LeviFiction
Not all Hacker sites are like that luckily. Many of us are just misunderstood.
Hackers are GOD people! I agree with u.There have been said so much in this, that anyone just a litle comp. enthusiast shouldent confuse hacker with cracker itc.
::: Ha thisone nobody has! :lol: :lol:
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For virus programming you'll have to dive into system security issues ... see the latest vulnarabilities in various systems and then its your job to program exploits for those vulnarabilities ...
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>but it was just my school project(homework).
Writing a virus isn't given as homework. The liabilities are too great for any teaching institution to allow it.
Writing a virus isn't given as homework. The liabilities are too great for any teaching institution to allow it.
I'm a programmer. My attitude starts with arrogance, holds steady at condescension, and ends with hostility. Get used to it.
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