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I have decieded to learn c++ just wondering what compilers you would all suggest? thanks
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"One of the methods used by statists to destroy capitalism consists in establishing controls that tie a given industry hand and foot, making it unable to solve its problems, then declaring that freedom has failed and stronger controls are necessary." --Ayn Rand
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>The best
That's nice. Prove it. And anytime you say that something is the best or the worst, be ready to prove it.
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Narue,
I have some respect for you, don't make me lose it. Goggle out the benchmark scores for all C++ compilers. It's been proven, I don't need to prove it again. Oh well,
http://www.aceshardware.com/read_news.jsp?id=75000387
You can prove it yourself anyway, remember the 'hello world' program, why don't you try it on ICL then GCC, if you use the right analysis tools you will find that Intel's compiler produces faster code. Oh yeah, look for this article
"Intel's C++ Compilers for Linux and Windows smoke GNU C and MS Visual C++ in number crunching benchmarks"
Here:
http://www.open-mag.com/754088105111.htm
another one, kinda old review:
http://www.willus.com/ccomp_benchmark.shtml?p11

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To someone just starting out, "free" may be best. Also a nice IDE, help and debugging may be very important.

Just like with the best car, "speed" isn't all there is! Dev-C++ and the GNU stuff may not be a racehorse, but it is a good workhorse and it is free.

So go to
http://www.bloodshed.net/
and test out the Dev-C++ package. Learn to write good code, maybe even the best code! If you find out that you really like to work with C++, you can always invest the big bucks and get Visual Studio and improve it with Intel's wonderful add-on compiler.
May 'the Google' be with you!
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>I have some respect for you, don't make me lose it.
I don't care what you think about me, so I'll call it like I see it.

>It's been proven, I don't need to prove it again.
My problem isn't with your choice of favorite compiler. My problem is that you didn't back up your claims concerning the vague measure of "best". I know the facts, but not everyone does. You also can't expect everyone to google all night to determine whether you're full of hot air or not. Most people won't bother. So if you make a blanket statement, prove it then and there.

>Goggle out the benchmark scores for all C++ compilers.
Benchmarks are virtually useless, but if you believe them then more power to you.
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The best
http://www.intel.com/software/products/compilers/cwin/

Good luck.
Well I don't think this kind of rhetoric is appropriate for this or any other forum and I beleive when someone charactizes something as the best it's with the utmost sincerity and should be taken in that context. I have never used Intels compiler, but have taken it upon myself to investigate furthur, based entriely on Intel's opinion.

So Narue, I think you should mabe reconsider your position as self proclaimed officer of etiquette, and as I've noticed with a lot of your posts not be so condesending and critical of what others write.
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>it's with the utmost sincerity and should be taken in that context
In my experience, people are gullible and incapable of comprehending subtlety. Thus, the majority of readers will take such statements at face value, much like the "never use goto" deal.
So Narue, I think you should mabe reconsider your position as self proclaimed officer of etiquette, and as I've noticed with a lot of your posts not be so condesending and critical of what others write.
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