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Hi everyone,
Maybe its still not too late. Did you have anthing to do with the development of windows. Can you create or able to create a windows type os. What was you job at microsoft??
Richard West
Maybe its still not too late. Did you have anthing to do with the development of windows. Can you create or able to create a windows type os. What was you job at microsoft??
Richard West
Microsoft uses "One World, One Web, One Program" as a slogan.
Doesn’t that sound like "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Führer" to you, too?
— Eric S. Raymond
Tell me what type of software do you like and what would you pay for it
http://www.daniweb.com/techtalkforums/thread19660.html
Doesn’t that sound like "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Führer" to you, too?
— Eric S. Raymond
Tell me what type of software do you like and what would you pay for it
http://www.daniweb.com/techtalkforums/thread19660.html
Unfortunately, no, Richard. MartyMcFly got it right, I was at Microsoft when MSDOS came out. As the Intro subject says, "I USED to be a Geek". I used my early talents to get into sales/marketing, where the $ is. I can't program anymore, lost the interest and the skills and didn't keep up. And I wasn't part of the technical team - I was responsible for marketing the stuff...
I will tell you a good story about windows though. And I know where you are coming from on wanting a new O/S. Somebody did that already, though - LInux...
Most of you will not even remember CPM, no? Well, it was written by a guy down in Monterey, CA and did very well until Bill and his cronies stole it to write DOS. Yes, I'm not kidding, if you look at CPM and then look at DOS you will see where that C:\> came from. Yep, it's exactly the same and it's still there. And there starts all the problems you have today with Windows.
As an old systems programmer, I know that there are always bugs in software, you can't get rid of them. At first writing, those responsible try to find them all, back when I was a programmer running programs from punch cards we had to submit programs for testing one day and get the printouts back the next, there weren't any monitors and instant gratification. Anyway, the bugs are never completely fixed, the programs just get to working in spite of the bugs, but some of them are there - the guys just found the ones that caused problems and worked around those that didn't cause problems. But they are always there and can come back and BYTE you at the most inopportune times.
Well, that's what's happening today. Windows has, as its base, DOS, which was derived from CPM back when Microcomputers were still simple. Every interation of Windows just builds on the previous, with all the bugs all the way back into the 1970's.
Until somebody realizes the truth, which will never happen, that this complicated mess we call windows really isn't necessary except to the bottom line of Microsoft and the thousands of companies that feed off their achievments, we're stuff with it. Want an example of what I'm saying??
Take Word, for an example. Most of us use it. How many of you use more than 5% of its features. I've been using computers for 30+ years and writing for more than that in many ways. I don't use more that 5% of it. If I had kept one of those z80 computers or the like, along with that windows, whatever it was, and the original Word, I would be just as well of without putting up with all this new Windows stuff, without needing all the graphics, without all the hassles of virus and spyware, etc. I'm talking about just for word processing, now, don't jump on me. But that computer would have still been working perfectly as a word processor. Of course, it would probably not be fixable if I had a problem, but you get my message here.
Very few of us need all the features of these machines we have. But you have to remember, when you are griping about Microsoft, that we are the ones that asked them for the pretty graphics, etc. And they gave us what we wanted. And by buying their package, we are the ones responsible for the behemoth.
So before going out and slaying the dragon, think about what it gave you.
And Marty's right, I should write a book about all this stuff. But I'm still working for a living and don't have time... What can I say
I will tell you a good story about windows though. And I know where you are coming from on wanting a new O/S. Somebody did that already, though - LInux...
Most of you will not even remember CPM, no? Well, it was written by a guy down in Monterey, CA and did very well until Bill and his cronies stole it to write DOS. Yes, I'm not kidding, if you look at CPM and then look at DOS you will see where that C:\> came from. Yep, it's exactly the same and it's still there. And there starts all the problems you have today with Windows.
As an old systems programmer, I know that there are always bugs in software, you can't get rid of them. At first writing, those responsible try to find them all, back when I was a programmer running programs from punch cards we had to submit programs for testing one day and get the printouts back the next, there weren't any monitors and instant gratification. Anyway, the bugs are never completely fixed, the programs just get to working in spite of the bugs, but some of them are there - the guys just found the ones that caused problems and worked around those that didn't cause problems. But they are always there and can come back and BYTE you at the most inopportune times.
Well, that's what's happening today. Windows has, as its base, DOS, which was derived from CPM back when Microcomputers were still simple. Every interation of Windows just builds on the previous, with all the bugs all the way back into the 1970's.
Until somebody realizes the truth, which will never happen, that this complicated mess we call windows really isn't necessary except to the bottom line of Microsoft and the thousands of companies that feed off their achievments, we're stuff with it. Want an example of what I'm saying??
Take Word, for an example. Most of us use it. How many of you use more than 5% of its features. I've been using computers for 30+ years and writing for more than that in many ways. I don't use more that 5% of it. If I had kept one of those z80 computers or the like, along with that windows, whatever it was, and the original Word, I would be just as well of without putting up with all this new Windows stuff, without needing all the graphics, without all the hassles of virus and spyware, etc. I'm talking about just for word processing, now, don't jump on me. But that computer would have still been working perfectly as a word processor. Of course, it would probably not be fixable if I had a problem, but you get my message here.
Very few of us need all the features of these machines we have. But you have to remember, when you are griping about Microsoft, that we are the ones that asked them for the pretty graphics, etc. And they gave us what we wanted. And by buying their package, we are the ones responsible for the behemoth.
So before going out and slaying the dragon, think about what it gave you.
And Marty's right, I should write a book about all this stuff. But I'm still working for a living and don't have time... What can I say
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