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Does anyone know if Microsoft will be offering Visual Basic .Net 2005 as a standalone product? I can't imagine that they would not, but I can't find anything on their site that mentions anything but Visual Studio 2005, which contains a host of things I don't want. I have a copy of VB6, but I have tentatively decided to move to .Net
I am also wondering (hope this isn't offensive to anyone) how experienced programmers feel about a product called REALbasic? Is it worth considering against Visual Basic? As you might have guessed, I'm rather new to programming so I'd like to get off on the best possible foot here.
I am also wondering (hope this isn't offensive to anyone) how experienced programmers feel about a product called REALbasic? Is it worth considering against Visual Basic? As you might have guessed, I'm rather new to programming so I'd like to get off on the best possible foot here.
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REALbasic is comparable to VB6 - perhaps a little more stripped down than even that. I have the mac version and wasn't aware there was a windows equivalent. Good alternative to doing VB-style coding on the mac platform (OSX native). I would also assume that if Microsoft is putting out another version of VS.NET, they're going to offer each individual language to be purchased separately as well.
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Yes, REALbasic does have fewer features than VB6. It's fairly suitable for me for where I am right now, but I'm concerned that I might miss out on something I'll need down the road if I don't go ahead and dig into VB.NET itself now, as long as I'm learning anyway. Problem is I can't afford to pay for four languages just to learn and use one, and wouldn't if I could!
Like you, I'm reasonably certain MS will offer each product separately, but hey, we're talking Microsoft here, so...
Like you, I'm reasonably certain MS will offer each product separately, but hey, we're talking Microsoft here, so...
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If you just learning, the educational edition of he suite is a cheaper alternative to the full license. There are items and things that you can do with the suite that are very limited or nonexistent in the individual languages. This is Microsoft's way of attempting to get people to invest in the more expensive suite than in the individual languages.
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Well, I think I can handle something more in-depth than the educational version, but I think it's pretty nasty that Microsoft would partially cripple the individual packages just to crowbar me into the suite! I'm wondering at this point if I'd be better off just obtaining plugins for VB6 Professional, which I already have. At some point, I might want to learn other languages, but for now I just want to focus on one, and besides I can't afford the price of the Suite, even as an upgrade. I might even wait to see what the newest release of REALbasic is going to look like before making a decisive move.
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The educational version is cheaper to entice students to invest in Microsoft software developing. However, it's not a crippled version at all. It offers just as much as the professional version.
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Originally Posted by cscgal
The educational version is cheaper to entice students to invest in Microsoft software developing. However, it's not a crippled version at all. It offers just as much as the professional version.
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Yes there are several license restrictions. You can not use the educational version for comercial use or to make a profit at all. No you do not have to be a student, someone even mentioned that you can buy the educational versions at amazon or ebay. It is a good way to help people learn the products, especially students who do not have a lot of discretionary income.
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You can get REALbasic for free ($99.95 value, no strings attached) from http://www.realbasic.com/vb in a special promotion the company is offering, good through March 31, 2005.
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Originally Posted by cscgal
REALbasic is comparable to VB6 - perhaps a little more stripped down than even that. I have the mac version and wasn't aware there was a windows equivalent. Good alternative to doing VB-style coding on the mac platform (OSX native). I would also assume that if Microsoft is putting out another version of VS.NET, they're going to offer each individual language to be purchased separately as well.
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Originally Posted by Gwen
You can get REALbasic for free ($99.95 value, no strings attached) from http://www.realbasic.com/vb in a special promotion the company is offering, good through March 31, 2005.
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