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difference between Borland c++ and Visual C

 
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From many days I wanted to create some application in Windows.
Now which IDE would be better (I am also a bit confused with the term IDE )
Turbo c or Borland C++ bulder or Visual c
Whatz the difference between these things??
Please someone clear my confusion.
Also I dont think learning the C which we studied in our colllege would be enough for this !!
Also please help me to learn this...
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Don't use Turbo C, I would go for Microsoft Visual C++.
Tutorial to get you started on windows programming. [link]
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Don't use Turbo C
Why not?
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Why not?
It's ancient and there's just so many reasons to use an up-to-date compiler, can't be bothered listing them.
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Originally Posted by Tom Gunn View Post
Why not?
For several obvious reasons Tom Gunn :

1)Because it is sub standard.
2)Uses all the extinct headers and commands.
3)It is not according to the c99 standards.
4)void main is valid in it.
5)The blue screen irritates a lot...
And loads other stuff.........
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It's ancient and there's just so many reasons to use an up-to-date compiler, can't be bothered listing them.
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For several obvious reasons Tom Gunn :

1)Because it is sub standard.
2)Uses all the extinct headers and commands.
3)It is not according to the c99 standards.
4)void main is valid in it.
5)The blue screen irritates a lot...
And loads other stuff.........
That is what I thought you were going to say. Please check your facts before turning people off to a good compiler. Turbo C++ has an up-to-date version from around 2006. As far as I know, it conforms to the standard. If you are going to bash Turbo C++, at least make it clear what version you are attacking and why.
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That is what I thought you were going to say. Please check your facts before turning people off to a good compiler. Turbo C++ has an up-to-date version from around 2006. As far as I know, it conforms to the standard. If you are going to bash Turbo C++, at least make it clear what version you are attacking and why.
Most of the people who use Turbo C/C++ do so because they want to make use of old headers like graphics.h. and FYI I wasn't bashing, he asked which one he should use and even if Turbo C++ is now compliant to the standard, I would still have said MSVC++ for reasons such as the debugger.
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Originally Posted by William Hemsworth View Post
Don't use Turbo C, I would go for Microsoft Visual C++.
Tutorial to get you started on windows programming. [link]
What about borland c++ builder?
Actually I wanted to choose the best one for wndows appl dev.
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Originally Posted by Tom Gunn View Post
Turbo C++ has an up-to-date version from around 2006. As far as I know, it conforms to the standard.
Yes it is. But it is also called C++Builder, not Turbo C++. William was advising against the use of Turbo C++, not C++ Builder and they are not the same thing. Windows 3.1 != Windows 7

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What about borland c++ builder?
Actually I wanted to choose the best one for wndows appl dev.
Visual Studio Expresss is my personal favourite. I like the debugger a lot and although some people say that the UI is a but cluttered, I'm quite fond of it. You can download it by clicking the link. (choose the C++ version )
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Yes it is. But it is also called C++Builder, not Turbo C++.
No, I was wrong. Turbo C++ 2006, also called Turbo C++ Explorer, is not available anymore. It looks like the only free option now is a trial version of C++ Builder.

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William was advising against the use of Turbo C++, not C++ Builder and they are not the same thing.
I know what William was advising against, but for the last few years Turbo C++ had been resurrected as Turbo C++ Explorer, with the 2006 version of Borland's compiler. I saw it the same as condemning VS2008 based on the problems of VS6, so I was making sure that everyone knew a more recent version of Turbo C++ was available. But I was wrong and that version is not available anymore, so it is safe to assume any mention of Turbo C++ means the ancient versions.

I apologize for giving outdated information. It was accurate when I checked a few months ago, and I made an unwarranted assumption that it was still accurate.
Last edited by Tom Gunn; Oct 21st, 2009 at 12:09 pm.
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