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More C++ developers than Java? Have you noticed that there are way more C++ developers than Java developers here in this community. See the comparison of the two primary forums:
Is it true that there are more C++ developers in general? Or just happens to this community only?
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Is it true that there are more C++ developers in general? Or just happens to this community only?
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Maybe it's just that more people need help with C++ than need help with Java :-)
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I would say most C++ developers are also Java developers and vis versa(or at least know the languages interchangably). Also, the C and C++ forums are together. Even though they are closely related, it's still two different languages. One more thing, we run out all the people who want us to do their homework for them!
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There are in the world more people knowing C/C++ than Java, it's true.
It's also true that many Java programmers also know C and/or C++ (and often several other languages as well, including Pascal, Python, Ruby, etc.), while many who mainly program C/C++ rarely know anything else.
And the more agressive stance against the lazy buggers who expect us to do their homework for them might indeed deter some from posting in the Java forum. But rest assured, if you have a legitimate question about a specific topic we're more than happy to lend you a hand with suggestions.
It's also true that many Java programmers also know C and/or C++ (and often several other languages as well, including Pascal, Python, Ruby, etc.), while many who mainly program C/C++ rarely know anything else.
And the more agressive stance against the lazy buggers who expect us to do their homework for them might indeed deter some from posting in the Java forum. But rest assured, if you have a legitimate question about a specific topic we're more than happy to lend you a hand with suggestions.
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Hi everyone,
Another possible reason is that C/C++ has been around longer than Java
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Another possible reason is that C/C++ has been around longer than Java
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that too, but so has Cobol :cheesy:
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To be frank Java is not a language everyone runs to.
It is because if it is C/C++ you just need to study the basics you can increase your knowledge through the net etc
whether graphics or any other connected field where c/c++ is used.
core java is useless unless you specialize in something.
like networking imaging application develppment.
java is such a big field
a person cannot be a guru in it unless he has that much years experience or has tried his hands in variety programming areas of java.
there will always be something a java person does not know.
another thing is most schools and colleges still give prominence to c/c++ though i feel that trend is changing now
which is why people in java are hard to find
this is just my opinion though
It is because if it is C/C++ you just need to study the basics you can increase your knowledge through the net etc
whether graphics or any other connected field where c/c++ is used.
core java is useless unless you specialize in something.
like networking imaging application develppment.
java is such a big field
a person cannot be a guru in it unless he has that much years experience or has tried his hands in variety programming areas of java.
there will always be something a java person does not know.
another thing is most schools and colleges still give prominence to c/c++ though i feel that trend is changing now
which is why people in java are hard to find
this is just my opinion though
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Originally Posted by yni420
To be frank Java is not a language everyone runs to.
It is because if it is C/C++ you just need to study the basics you can increase your knowledge through the net etc
whether graphics or any other connected field where c/c++ is used.
core java is useless unless you specialize in something.
like networking imaging application develppment.
java is such a big field
a person cannot be a guru in it unless he has that much years experience or has tried his hands in variety programming areas of java.
there will always be something a java person does not know.
another thing is most schools and colleges still give prominence to c/c++ though i feel that trend is changing now
which is why people in java are hard to find
this is just my opinion though
I think it's just the opposite. Also, schools and universites have switched from teaching most programming class in C++ to Java.
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Java is indeed a lot easier to get into than is C++.
The larger core APIs are a main reason for that. No longer do you have to write tons of lowlevel stuff yourself (or find some often poorly documented 3rd party library which will likely work on only one compiler and OS which is always one you're not using) like you would with C++.
The documentation is also a LOT better.
Sadly this promise of a more easy start attracts a lot of people with no interest in learning at all, they just want a quick injection of knowledge to stuff their resumes.
These people disappear from the statistics as they fail to deliver but do increase the percentage of users dropping out.
With C++ these people never even try, and therefore the dropout percentage will be lower.
The larger core APIs are a main reason for that. No longer do you have to write tons of lowlevel stuff yourself (or find some often poorly documented 3rd party library which will likely work on only one compiler and OS which is always one you're not using) like you would with C++.
The documentation is also a LOT better.
Sadly this promise of a more easy start attracts a lot of people with no interest in learning at all, they just want a quick injection of knowledge to stuff their resumes.
These people disappear from the statistics as they fail to deliver but do increase the percentage of users dropping out.
With C++ these people never even try, and therefore the dropout percentage will be lower.
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Hi everyone,
yni420 you said "It is because if it is C/C++ you just need to study the basics you can increase your knowledge through the net etc"
Seriously you know that's not true. If what you said were true colleges and universities aound the US would have gone bust by now. I have done C/C++ for many years and i can tell you for a fact that building applications in C/C++ is harder than in java.
yni420 you said "whether graphics or any other connected field where C/C++ is used"
I have done graphics applications with C/C++ and i can tell you you are are confusing C/C++ with winapi. If you tried to do graphics rendering say for example an application that is similar to PhotoShop you will lose your mind before the graphics actually renders
yni420 you said "core java is useless"
You got to be kidding.
yni420 you said "a person cannot be a guru in it unless he has that much years experience or has tried his hands in variety programming areas of java"
That's true for all programing languages. No one can truely know everthing unless they created it.
yni420 you said "there will always be something a java person does not know"
Like What??
yni420 you said "another thing is most schools and colleges still give prominence to C/C++ though i feel that trend is changing now
which is why people in java"
Java programmers are hard to find because number one like the people in the java forum are sometimes there to get their homework done and not really interested in much else.
Richard West
yni420 you said "It is because if it is C/C++ you just need to study the basics you can increase your knowledge through the net etc"
Seriously you know that's not true. If what you said were true colleges and universities aound the US would have gone bust by now. I have done C/C++ for many years and i can tell you for a fact that building applications in C/C++ is harder than in java.
yni420 you said "whether graphics or any other connected field where C/C++ is used"
I have done graphics applications with C/C++ and i can tell you you are are confusing C/C++ with winapi. If you tried to do graphics rendering say for example an application that is similar to PhotoShop you will lose your mind before the graphics actually renders
yni420 you said "core java is useless"
You got to be kidding.
yni420 you said "a person cannot be a guru in it unless he has that much years experience or has tried his hands in variety programming areas of java"
That's true for all programing languages. No one can truely know everthing unless they created it.
yni420 you said "there will always be something a java person does not know"
Like What??
yni420 you said "another thing is most schools and colleges still give prominence to C/C++ though i feel that trend is changing now
which is why people in java"
Java programmers are hard to find because number one like the people in the java forum are sometimes there to get their homework done and not really interested in much else.
Richard West
Microsoft uses "One World, One Web, One Program" as a slogan.
Doesn’t that sound like "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Führer" to you, too?
— Eric S. Raymond
Tell me what type of software do you like and what would you pay for it
http://www.daniweb.com/techtalkforums/thread19660.html
Doesn’t that sound like "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Führer" to you, too?
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Tell me what type of software do you like and what would you pay for it
http://www.daniweb.com/techtalkforums/thread19660.html
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