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Feb 13th, 2004
Originally Posted by WEATHER CHANNEL
Pls Don't be a SYHATER.
Maybe, you downloaded a corrupt version off Kazaa.
How is sygate a pain?
"Track the sucker down"...............not quite that WHOIS feature is little more than a marketing ploy & is not accurate at all. IMHO There are real tools for that task believe me and that WHOIS built in feature is not one of them. It's just a false sense of security given to the average user to make them feel better.
How is SYGATE over protective?
i appreciate what youre saying. but i have used the WHOIS feature many a time and i think it is a little more than a marketing ploy. im not denying you probably have more knowledge than me with security. but im merely saying that sygate didnt work for me and i was only offering people a choice to do some research for themselves. ZApro is packed with featuresand to me is the better program in my experience. and is very secure.
sygate caused a lot of problems with my browser a lot of pages wouldnt open id have to nearly turn sygate off!!! to access the sites. that to me is overprotective everyone is different.
as to downloading a dodgy copy from kazaa i dont think so because i was using a 30 day trial version!!!!!!!
im not trying to cause an argument just saying to ME its the better program of the two perhaps you could list some pro's and con's with the two programs (without being to be to biased)

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Feb 15th, 2004
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weather channel no way mate sygate is terrible
No, your experience with sygate was terrible,not sygate itself.
I wasn't questioning your opinion, I am however questioning the WHOIS feature in ZA.

Configuring SYGATE is real simple, hit applications tab in sygate remove all.
Next time something is trying to talk to the outside you get a prompt, you check the choices below.
A) Yes/ allow to connect to the internet
B) check little box to remeber this action.
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C) No/ don't allow to connect to the internet
D) check little box to remeber this action

My cousin, she is only 12y/o, she runs SYGATE on her laptop without trouble.
She even checks her logs all by herself and calls me when she gets a portscan.

Sygate & ZA have forums aswell http://forums.sygate.com/vb/ * http://forums.zonelabs.com/zonelabs
Did you post at SYGATE with your problems. Im sure it was somthing simple.


Anyway I have the NMAPNT, I attempted an upload but the .zip is 1.9mb PM for it.


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No, your experience with sygate was terrible,not sygate itself.
I wasn't questioning your opinion, I am however questioning the WHOIS feature in ZA.

Configuring SYGATE is real simple, hit applications tab in sygate remove all.
Next time something is trying to talk to the outside you get a prompt, you check the choices below.
A) Yes/ allow to connect to the internet
B) check little box to remeber this action.
____________________________________
C) No/ don't allow to connect to the internet
D) check little box to remeber this action

My cousin, she is only 12y/o, she runs SYGATE on her laptop without trouble.
She even checks her logs all by herself and calls me when she gets a portscan.

Sygate & ZA have forums aswell http://forums.sygate.com/vb/ * http://forums.zonelabs.com/zonelabs
Did you post at SYGATE with your problems. Im sure it was somthing simple.


Anyway I have the NMAPNT, I attempted an upload but the .zip is 1.9mb PM for it.


cheers
that is fundamentally how ZA works you allow the prgram access or you dont. you can click to remember action or not.and you can be stealthed from the net or be visibal and protected i can also set different programs such as kazaa with different security settings (while running it) as to the net while browsing.ie setting it to the trusted programs or not which i have full user control of im struggling to explain i might upload a thumbnail when im back in windows!!
but with sygate if i had the settings on full it would block pages id then have to all but shut the firewall down to acess the page. of course i know how to use a firewall i dont have any problems there. i tried norton internet security which was terrible. i then went for SYGATE PERSONNAL FIREWALL after reading a review in web user which said an all round good program but can be prone to overprotectiveness(is that a word)
i thought great how can anything possibly be overprotective
but i soon found out how. i had more gripes with it than this i cant remember them all it was a long time ago and i never gave it another thought till now i just unninstalled found a review on ZA PRO which i downloaded a trial like it got a key off kazaa and now i use the full program as im on broadband (as im sure most of us are)i obviously have an "always on connection" and i can simply "lock" the internet at a touch of a button. im using knoppix live cd at the mo (or trying to) so i cant look at the firewall to see the exact specs. but it rocks
i didnt bother posting on the sygate forum as i felt i was doing nothing wrong i just didnt like the program
as for NMAPNT do you mean EYEDIGITAL SECURITY?????

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.and you can be stealthed from the net or be visibal and protected
Stealthing under many situations can actually give back _more_ information than just having the port closed, especially on server systems. Stealthing is just another farce from the Steve Gibson camp. If you have a system that is listening on port 80 and stealthing everything else, the attacker obviously knows that a system exists there, and using timing attacks a sophistocated attack can even determine the type of firewall you are running as stealthing adds more latency than having the port just not being open. This latency may be calculated be using a carefully constructed request to any open services. Once this is accomplished, the attacker can make a good guess about the firewall based on this data.
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It's generally good practice (and good netiquette) to post the original URL you pasted the text from, so users can visit the site for further information.
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What's more, you deserve to be hacked.
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come again mate!
Oh, ok, man nmap.....hehehehehe
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i got nmap v3.50 but i cant install, i downloaded wincap program but cant find the info on how to link nmap to it and install. and for anyone who wants to see the the program in question click here :cheesy:
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