Hello Elohir and ceomoses!

thanks to the both of u for trying to help me, but i think i am really explaining this wrong.

the situation is like this :

ive got a new mobo including a 64mb video card.
i want to install this.

first, when i plugged everything in correctly, my windows couldnt start up and so i tried to put it the winxp cd. but when i selected 'auto repair' it said : please put in the auto repair 3.5" disk. and i dont have that disk!
i reset my computer, and boot from winxp cd again.
this time , it says the same weird error that it says when i try booting from my harddisk. (btw they are installed correctly on the ide cables, because its been like this for months without problems)
back to the error message.
it really makes no sense, just random 273893582=cse:ip....... and so on..

so i try again a few times, also tried the windows me startup disk (3.5")
nothing worked.
and i DONT want to format my computer, there are toooo many things on my hd that i really dont wanna loose and mean a very lot to me.

so, after those errors , i wanna start up my computer to try again, and my monitor doesnt startup.
not even for those 5-7 seconds. nothing. its just like the cable from monitor to video card isnt plugged in, thats how it looks like when i turn on my computer.

but, my new mobo also haves an onboard video chip. i tried plugging it in there, also nothing.. really frustrating.

so maybe its the power suply that isnt good enough? its .. 250 watt i think.
so should i bring my pc and monitor to the computer store?
(i dont have trucks of money so that would be the last option i want to do..)

or should i buy a 400 / 450 watt power suply, to make sure that every device on my mobo gets enough power?


thanks again in advance, u guys really help me out here, i love this forum.

i hope this post clears my problem out, just forget all the previous problems and only concentrate on this post, that should be the easiest thing to do..


thanks!!!
greetz,



philippe

Wait, there are times when the screen doesn't come on at all, even to see an error message? Obviously, the first thing you need to do is make sure you're able to see SOMETHING. When you tried the onboard video card, did you unplug the new one (AGP, I'm assuming). The onboard one won't work if the AGP card is installed. Make sure the Onboard video card is not disabled in the BIOS when you try it. It'd probably be good TO disable it when trying the new video card, so double check those settings. If no avail, definitely talk your dad into trying his monitor.

Other than that, from what I'm reading, except for times when your monitor doesn't receive a signal at all, you're able to get into BIOS and into the Windows CD without any monitor problems. It's only when you try to boot from the hard drive that you have the problem.
I do hope that you at least tried to double check and mess with the hard drives, even if you think it's ridiculous and couldn't possibly be the problem, because that was my first instinct when I read the symptoms and I'm pretty decent when it comes to that. I'm still thinking that's what it is.

I guess another reason why it wouldn't be booting from the hard drive would be a corrupted Windows, but from what you've told me, I'm not sure how that would have happened. You could still save your stuff by hooking your hard drive up into another machine.

What did you mean by the BIOS couldn't find Windows? I have 3 computers and none of mine detect Windows in BIOS. Did you mean auto-detecting the hard drives? If so, then that's the problem.

ok i will try to unplug the agp card and try the onboard.
but if its disabled, i really dont know what to do because if i cant see anything, i cant go into bios to enable.

so yeah i'l keep u guys posted.


thanks again!

flip

ok i have tried it.


i unplugged the agp card, and plugged my screen into to onboard video chip.
i start my computer and ... :O ! my screen starts ! but it only said : Signal out of range (and it was blinking )


any ideas?

thanks,


philippe

I didn't know what "Signal Out of Range" meant, but I found a MS support site that describes it.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=286331#appliesto

This site says you have to get into safe mode to fix, so I don't know if it'll work for you. If it doesn't help, there were several other results that came up in Google. Sorry I couldn't do more research on that before posting, but I'm at work, so I had to make it quick.

Hopefully, we're just a step away from fixing it. I may not be around to post this weekend, so don't think I forgot about you!

thanks mate, ur real friendly. i appriciate that!

yeah u indeed need to get into safe mode but that wont be possible since my windows is still not working , and also i am getting only that signal-screen and nothing else, so not even bios and stuff...

sucks

i am thinking about just bringing my computer to the computer store and just say... fix it .. dont format ... call me when its done

Alright, I'm off of work and I only got a little free time.

I've never had problems with the onboard video card settings on BIOS, so I'm not sure if the fact that you got an error message means it's enabled or not. To make sure it's enabled, you can always reset BIOS to default settings by taking out the CMOS battery on the motherboard for a few seconds, or motherboards usually have a "switch" where you can reset the BIOS (It should be a jumper on the motherboard where you have to move it to these other pins for a few seconds, then just move it back to the pins it was on). If you're not sure what/where these are, just type in the model of your motherboard in Google and look for a diagram of your motherboard that points it out (or look in the motherboard manual, if you have one).

I went to some of the other sites that Google came up with for that "Signal Out of Range", and they all seem to be happening while in Windows (something about the refresh rate being too high for the resolution on some games). However, the last guy on this Major Geeks forum: http://forum.majorgeeks.com/archive/...p/t-35629.html did mention the onboard video, so hopefully, we're on the right track for having your computer fixed for the weekend!

hello people,


my computer doesnt beep at all now first it just started up without anything on the screen (some weeks ago)

but in the last 2 days i tried several of ur solutions but none work .

i am really thinking about bringing it to the computer store now, alltho i would like to fix this myself for free , and get the good feeling u hav when u fix a computer that has lots of probs..



greetings

im so sorry for this way for getting attention but i really need some help





*bump*

is bringing my computer to the computer store really the last solution/option?



greetings,



philippe