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Getting high PageRank 6 or more I have few medium traffic traffic sites which i have been running for about a year. I did lots of link building work by submitting to directories which are free of charge.
I did a check with future prediction of pagerank and tools like iwebtool shows i will be getting PR5 in the future. No matter how hard i try, the maximum attainable page rank seems to be PR5. My question is what exactly need to be done to push that page rank to PR6 or more...
Has any one done that before...
I did a check with future prediction of pagerank and tools like iwebtool shows i will be getting PR5 in the future. No matter how hard i try, the maximum attainable page rank seems to be PR5. My question is what exactly need to be done to push that page rank to PR6 or more...
Has any one done that before...
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Originally Posted by olddocks
My question is what exactly need to be done to push that page rank to PR6 or more...
Some factors affecting PageRank are:
-Anchor Text of a link
-Prominence of a link within a document
-Relevance between web pages
-Importance of the linking pages
-Age of linking pages
-Age of your domain
For example, you have no control over the age of your domain, or the what the other sites do to their webpages.
So, bottomline, the best the PageRank prediction software gets you, is at a PR6. That's not too shabby.
Hope this helps:-)
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My thoughts on Pagerank as of SES-NYC 2006.
1. the general public does not know the current pagerank formula.
2. the general public does not know if pagerank is still used - many SEO experts say NO.
3. the green bar on your toolbar is not a metric of pagerank. it is a rough measure of how your page was perceived by G at some unknown point in time within roughly the last 90-100 days.
4. has little to do with where your site will appear on the SERPs
5. most likely reflects how often and how deep gbot will index, if there is currently such a thing as PR.
6. Mike Grehan, international link building expert repeatedly calls PR fairy dust, and repeatedly preaches to uninstall the toolbar.
1. the general public does not know the current pagerank formula.
2. the general public does not know if pagerank is still used - many SEO experts say NO.
3. the green bar on your toolbar is not a metric of pagerank. it is a rough measure of how your page was perceived by G at some unknown point in time within roughly the last 90-100 days.
4. has little to do with where your site will appear on the SERPs
5. most likely reflects how often and how deep gbot will index, if there is currently such a thing as PR.
6. Mike Grehan, international link building expert repeatedly calls PR fairy dust, and repeatedly preaches to uninstall the toolbar.
www.markdavidny.com - just one of my sites I'm trying to boost traffic for ;-)
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Great reply Promediacorp!
I can confirm that PageRank is not an indication of ranking in the SERP's. I have optimized a few brand new websites that were immediately in the top 3 rankings....above the PR6 competitive sites.
Although, like you said, .
That is enough for many SEO's to still consider PageRank when optimizing.
I can confirm that PageRank is not an indication of ranking in the SERP's. I have optimized a few brand new websites that were immediately in the top 3 rankings....above the PR6 competitive sites.
Although, like you said,
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it is a rough measure of how your page was perceived by G at some unknown point in time within roughly the last 90-100 days.
That is enough for many SEO's to still consider PageRank when optimizing.
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PageRank is a direct measure of the power that external backlinks brought the given page at some point in the past. We know that the power of your backlinks influences how frequently and how deeply googlebot crawls your site. Therefore, the Google PR toolbar is a direct measure of how deeply googlebot was likely to crawl your site in the past and therefore how well indexed you most likely are right now. It has NOTHING - I repeat *nothing* - to do with ranking.
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Hi cscgal,
You are correct.
But, not all webmasters adhere to these factors affecting PageRank. If they did adhere to SEO best practices of linking strategy, then they most likely will attain a higher pagerank, get their site crawled more frequently by Googlebot, and by default they will probably attain a higher position in the SERP's.
Although, PageRank by itself is not an indication of SE ranking.
You are correct.
But, not all webmasters adhere to these factors affecting PageRank. If they did adhere to SEO best practices of linking strategy, then they most likely will attain a higher pagerank, get their site crawled more frequently by Googlebot, and by default they will probably attain a higher position in the SERP's.
Although, PageRank by itself is not an indication of SE ranking.
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Do we really know for certain if the green bar on the toolbar correlates with anything NOWADAYS, even how deep Gbot will spider?
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Let me try to reexplain my thinking:
This is what we know: (1) That the little green bar corresponds to how deeply google spiders our site. (2) That the little green bar we see is old data, and hence, tells us what happened in the past. (3) That the depth google spiders our site correlates to how many pages we get in their index.
Therefore, if we see a high green bar TODAY, that means that at some point in the past we had lots of backlinks, hence got spidered deeply, hence TODAY have lots of pages indexed.
If we have lots of backlinks TODAY, we will get lots of pages indexed TOMORROW, and TODAY's PR will be reflected in the green toolbar TOMORROW.
Therefore, if we see a high green toolbar TODAY, that means we got spidered a lot YESTERDAY and have lots of pages indexed TODAY.
Whew!!
This is what we know: (1) That the little green bar corresponds to how deeply google spiders our site. (2) That the little green bar we see is old data, and hence, tells us what happened in the past. (3) That the depth google spiders our site correlates to how many pages we get in their index.
Therefore, if we see a high green bar TODAY, that means that at some point in the past we had lots of backlinks, hence got spidered deeply, hence TODAY have lots of pages indexed.
If we have lots of backlinks TODAY, we will get lots of pages indexed TOMORROW, and TODAY's PR will be reflected in the green toolbar TOMORROW.
Therefore, if we see a high green toolbar TODAY, that means we got spidered a lot YESTERDAY and have lots of pages indexed TODAY.
Whew!!
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Originally Posted by shimon
Some factors affecting PageRank are:
-Anchor Text of a link
-Prominence of a link within a document
-Relevance between web pages
-Importance of the linking pages
-Age of linking pages
-Age of your domain
So, bottomline, the best the PageRank prediction software gets you, is at a PR6. That's not too shabby.
Thanks shimon for making some excellent points on this. so are you saying that i should allow plenty of time to cross PR5 barrier?
I absolutely had no problem with google indexing my site's deep level pages. It crawled and indexed almost 35'000 pages within a month, which i believe a strong indication of good ranking with google. Normally for any ordinary sites, it takes about 3-4 months to index this much amount of pages. So my guess is i do believe these page rank prediction tools, are not bad at all.
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Originally Posted by shimon
Some factors affecting PageRank are:
-Anchor Text of a link
-Prominence of a link within a document
-Relevance between web pages
-Importance of the linking pages
-Age of linking pages
-Age of your domain
So, bottomline, the best the PageRank prediction software gets you, is at a PR6. That's not too shabby.
Thanks shimon for making some excellent points on this. I think my pages are well linked and can easily meet 1-4 points by you, except last two. so are you saying that i should allow plenty of time to cross PR5 barrier?
I absolutely had no problem with google indexing my site's deep level pages. It crawled and indexed almost 35'000 pages within a month, which i believe a strong indication of good ranking with google. Normally for any ordinary sites, it takes about 3-4 months to index this much amount of pages. So my guess is i do believe these page rank prediction tools, are not bad at all.
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