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(whatever the power user version of a mac is) has an intel Xenon
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Howzit Dani,

I've used a program called iEmulator on my Mac Mini and iBook (They're G4's). It cost me about $23.00 but the programs works and they have great customer support. They recommend using Win 98 and 2000 to get good results .. but XP can be run on it also. I've been using it for a year now to run education programs that only run on 98 for my classrooms. I was talking one of the programmers an the next version will address USB .. It's alot cheaper than virtual PC. Education budgets, especially environmental/park budgets for computers are shrinking by the minute.

Boot Camp and Parallel are pretty much for the new intel macs.

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I think this is the right step for apple. now you can put a mac up against a PC to see the differences and they avoid more problems by publishing a version of it. in responce to goldeagle2005 I can easily see microsoft veleasing a VirtualPC just for that after getting Vista out
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I have a MacBook Pro that is intel and is really the slowest computer i have had in the past couple years. I use a program called Parallels. i run xp on that it is way.....way.......way faster than osx. Parallels is an awsome product.
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I have a MacBook Pro that is intel and is really the slowest computer i have had in the past couple years. I use a program called Parallels. i run xp on that it is way.....way.......way faster than osx. Parallels is an awsome product.
I don't know about that. Parallels is emulating Windows XP, while OS X runs natively. On my MacBook OS X is way faster than Parallels or VMWare, although it could partly be due the fact that my RAM is quite low (only 512 MB).

Perhaps you're running a lot of older OS X programs? The older programs are most likely compiled and optimized for the PowerPC chip, which was previously used in Macs. Without a universal binary of a program, Rosetta is neeeded and the speed is 50% slower. There's not much you can do about them, other than looking for a universal version from the creator's website.
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Wyky97 and Joe,

I run the latest version of parallel ... and what sold me about it was the abiltiy to switch and not reboot. I saw it work for the first time in Sept/Oct on a macbook pro... the person was using it in a doctors office... He let me try it and I was sold..I really din't notice the speed varialble. ... but I'm kinda slow anyway. I was kinda on the fence about boot camp and VM .. but I risked it and thanksgiving week we got it. We only have it on the macbook pro and not the iMac 24" We're running the imac just solely as an OS X Machine for mulitimedia production. Both machines have 2 gigs.


I tried a little "real time" experiment for work to test out parallels on the Macbook Pro. I tried to run Protools, Fruity loops Cakewalk and Musix Audio Studio( All music Programs .. I didn't notice too much speed problems with the programs ... and my playback and monitoring latencies were fair... I tried alot of things like switching sound processing modes..playing live and processing a guitar.uke but it held out. Then I switched to the music programs I had running in OS X .. no Probs.

I then tested a USB and Bluetooth Delorome and Delorme 2007 Map Program and TOPO and I got into my truck and cruized my park.. I could notice a fraction of slowdown and that might have been becase there are parts of my park where i don't get GPS signal.. but the programs still worked fast.

I was pushing my luck with Arcview and Pathfinder GIS and trimble Explorer GPS ...I did some in field stuff with it. Not too bad .. a tiny bit of slow down .. but fast..

I took one of my chiefs with me on the experiments and they approved budgets for two mac book pros, parallel software, and delorme and route 66 gps software and delorme gps units .... With a little tweaking of the office eauipment, educations and training budgets thats all we could get They wouldn't budget for games or music software for me ... bersides I have the macs in my bands studio to play with. I could see getting a little disracted at work.

At home I'm still running my hawaiian "Two Slippah System" Mac Mini G4 and HP a1012u and a KVM ...OS x and Windows XP.. and "One Slippah System" I still got the ibook running OX X and iemulator/Win 98. I get spoiled using the New macs at work and the studio .. But I'll probably keep the G4's till they die or get the smallest mac book in 2yrs.

To Make a long story even longer. ... I kinda like parallel. ;o)
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does virtual pc cost money for macs?
its free for windows users (well the newest one isnt free for me as im not 18 and dont have xp pro grrrrrr)
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does virtual pc cost money for macs?
its free for windows users (well the newest one isnt free for me as im not 18 and dont have xp pro grrrrrr)
Virtual PC is outdated - there's no support for the Intel Macs, and if you believe Microsoft, there never will be. They discontinued Virtual PC for Macs a while back, and so now you'll have to use Parallels, or the upcoming VMWare Fusion.

Just for the record: Virtual PC for Macs was never free, although one advantage it offered over other commercial emulators for Mac was that it came with a copy of Windows XP, something that neither Parallels nor VMWare provides.
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oh, ok
why would you want paralells if you could use bootcamp?
Is bootcamp free?
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jb .. I use parallels because If you use boot camp and your if in os you have to reboot into xp and visa versa. In parallel I can run my xp aplication in OS and switch back to what I'm using in OS ...

Boot Camp is free .. but Parallel was on a limited sale for about 49.99 or 59.99 ... you can get it for a bout 65-85 online. And I already had a Legal XP pro disk. So I'm liking it for what I do at home and work.


I just use the xp side for a couple of programs and I'm not a gamer .. I'm a surfer and paddler (even in th e winter) so I use my Organic CPU and body parts ... Iwish there was boot camp for my brain so I can boot into left or right side but ever since I had my stroke Its like running a fast chip, ram with a glitch and slow audio software and robotics .. but I manage and my brains CPU is rewiring/formatting and its syncing with my body a little smoother and faster. I think I'm running a version of OEM Junyah OS that just got patched and upgraded a year ago and I'm dual booting into right left and healing OS I think I'm using a version of Parallel or VM in my brain to bypass the damage the stoke caused. its a tiny bit slow .. but it works fine for the good stuff. brrr ..Its cold but Its gonna be a great year!
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