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I'm very confused by what you're trying to say. I fail to see the flaw in the flag notification system. However, it comes down to this:

Free Arsenal privately apologized after posting this thread saying that he knows he acted in the wrong and does not want to be the cause of Narue stepping down.
I don't want Narue to step down either. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I recognize her as a valuable asset to our community. I will be the first to admit she'll be missed. It was, however, her decision.
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What I am trying to say is FreeArsenel flagged a post from Narue. How come a bad flag notification went to her? If she didn't get that notification the other moderators would have looked into the matter and made a decision. Because of the notification, she knew who sent it, why it was sent...and therefore started this private war between the two. As an example, in this case because Narue is in the receiving end, I think the notification should have gone only to big_k105, BountyX, Dave Sinkula, Paladine, Stack Overflow, vegaseat Other than that red dot in the control panel of the message, nobody else should know about the details.
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Narue is an equal staff member on DaniWeb. The way that the flag bad post system currently works is that when a post is flagged, a ticket regarding the issue is created in a private area visible only to staff. This allows for such threads to be handled most efficiently since any staff member can deal with the thread and mark it solved. Staff should, in theory, handle moderation issues impartially. We are, however, all human.

This is different than the reputation system! I agree, that no member or moderator should see who reputation came from.

When one clicks on Flag Bad Post, on the other hand, there is a message indicating that: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising messages, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Clearly, you can see how it would be valuable for threads fitting this description to be brought to the attention of all staff so that they are handled as quickly as possible by whomever happens to be online at the time.
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*Starts A Petition To Keep Narue As A Moderator (A Petition to get her to change her mind about stepping down)*

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Originally Posted by cscgal
Narue is an equal staff member on DaniWeb. The way that the flag bad post system currently works is that when a post is flagged, a ticket regarding the issue is created in a private area visible only to staff. This allows for such threads to be handled most efficiently since any staff member can deal with the thread and mark it solved. Staff should, in theory, handle moderation issues impartially. We are, however, all human.
Ethically no moderator should be allowed to make decisions on their own post when there is a conflict regarding it. /*edit. bad example*/When it is a moderator's post that is being flagged dont send the notification to him/her.
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This is different than the reputation system! I agree, that no member or moderator should see who reputation came from.
The reason I think is that people tend to favour people who voted for them. Well the way I see it, making friends is better than fighting.

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When one clicks on Flag Bad Post, on the other hand, there is a message indicating that: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising messages, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Clearly, you can see how it would be valuable for threads fitting this description to be brought to the attention of all staff so that they are handled as quickly as possible by whomever happens to be online at the time.
I see the point. But in cases like this it brings a lot more conflict than keeping the thread in place for a few more days. It could be easily adjusted if you can put in the condition I suggested. Thanks.
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Regarding this incident, she is not abusing her power as a moderator when closing an old thread. But I see a very serious flaw in this banning system. How on earth does a message regarding a ban directed at one of the moderators goes to himself/herself? Bans should be confidential.
um I went through my own post just now. All these places where I have written ban... actually I meant flagging bad post. Sorry for any misunderstanding. I guess I was a bit ruffled。
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The following is part of a PM conversation I had with Narue:

Originally Posted by Narue
It isn't just these two occurrances, I've been toying with leaving for a while and this is only the latest of encouragements. Stepping down is simply a way to encourage me not to feel obligated to hang around. Here's the full story on my end:

1) Some very good things are happening in my life right now, but they promise to take up far too much of my time for me to be of any real use here.

2) It's obvious that my attitude isn't appreciated even if my knowledge is. First impressions are the most important, and since I'm not likely to change my ways (I have tried several times), it's better to simply remove the problem area than to let it eat away at the community.

3) All too often, my actions are viewed as those of a moderator, not as just another poster. As you said, I represent Daniweb, and even if my method is effective for teaching, I end up giving the community as a whole a bad reputation.

4) If nothing else, a long hiatus will be good for me. So good that I might not come back, which is why I said my absence would be semi-permanent.

p.s. You're welcome to quote this publicly to set the record straight with everyone. It seems like public opinion is that this incident was the cause and/or I was banned.
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>Some very good things are happening in my life right now, but they promise to take up far too much of my time for me to be of any real use here.

I bet she's having a baby. Yay!

Bye bye narue.

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I was flamed by Narue within my first few posts, but I still think she will be a sad loss to the community, she made some of the topics worth reading!

I always thought flame wars were part and parcel of forum communities dating back to when usenet was a new thing.

It would be dreadfully dull and boring without some good old fashioned personal mud slinging. I love it me !
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I have been gone a few days and just read this thread this morning. I don't hang out in that particular forum where this all started, so at first I was just going to keep my thoughts to myself. But after reading Dani's post where she quoted Narue on her reasons for leaving, I wanted to anyway.....Personally, I never had any interaction with Narue. I did read some of her posts over the time that I have been a member here. I think a lot of it has to do with Narue's personal style....me being the type of person I am, there have been posts of her's where initially I would have been bothered, but that is just because I am on the opposite end of the spectrum than she is as far as personality goes. But I think what we need to remember is that this is a forum with LOTS of different personalities....and they all add a little something to the board. It's like a previous poster said....it keeps things interesting. It is a shame to lose such a great member, but going by what she said, she has some good things going for her at the moment, and I think we should all be happy for her and only wish her the best.
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