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Okay here it goes. I recently moved to a rural area from an Urban one and had to give up roadrunner for DSL (i know, it sucks). The tech came in hooked the modem up and made some changes in network connections, didn't really pay much attention at the time. I should have asked him to hook the router up to but it didn't cross my mind. Anyway, My connection is stable with only the modem setup. But when I hook the router up to, my machine tells me it's connected to the net, but I can't access anything on the net. Also when I go into my router setup, the WAN IP address i get is a 192 address. That's not correct is it? I tried cloning my MAC address, I tried using a MAC address from an extra NIC card my dad has in Florida. I tried many things and haven't been able to get access with my router. Its weird because I didn't have to make any alterations with the router when I had roadrunner, just plugged it in and I was good to go. I want to get this up and running though so I can better regulate the traffic coming and going from my connection, so I can establish a subnet, and so my roommate can get his PC online as well.

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What is the exact make/model of the new "modem"? It sounds like it may really be a combo modem/router.
For that matter, give us the make/model of your router as well.
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The modem is a Westell DSL2+ router. So I guess your right about the Modem+router combo. The 4 port I have is a LinksysNR041. Any suggestions?
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The Westell itself (which definitely has a built-in router if it's a Versalink model) has 4 Ethernet ports and wireless capability as well, right?
If so, do you really need the Linksys at all?
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Negative, the modem has only one port. I only wish it had 4 ports, and then yea I wouldn't need the linksys. And no it doesn't have wireless capabilities, not that I use a wireless connection anyway. I'm including a link to the webpage for it............. http://www.westell.com/content/produ...f/liteline.pdf
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Negative, the modem has only one port...I'm including a link to the webpage for it...
Ah, I see- it's a LiteLine model, not a Versalink, although judging from the 192. address you're getting, it looks like it's one of the liteline models (6100, maybe?) that does have a built-in router.

The easy solution is to wire the Ethernet port on the modem to one of LAN ports on the Linksys (instead of connecting it to the Linksys' Internet/WAN port). This bypasses the router functionality of the Linksys and basically turns it in to a glorified switch. The "pro" of this is that there is no need to configure anything on the Linksys; the "con" is that it does eat up one LAN port on the Linksys. If you do wire things this way, you may need to use a special "crossover" Ethernet cable (instead of a normally-wired cable) to connect the two devices. This will be the case if Linksys has no "autosensing" or "uplink" port .

The other option is to connect the router to the modem in the way you normally would (which, from the sound of it, is what you originally tried). You would then either disable NAT on the Linksys so that it passes through the DHCP-assigned IP info supplied by the modem, or configure the Linksys with the correct settings to allow it to route from its own network to that of the modem.

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Yea my dad had me try and disable NAT on the Linksys, but on the setup page I couldn't find anywhere. The 1st port on the linksys has an uplink button though. So, it looks like maybe the first option is what will work. Let me try and I'll get back, thanks for the ideas.
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Unfortunately, disabling NAT involves more than just a button click; configuring a router to work as I descibed in my second option can take a bit of twiddling sometimes. Try the uplink port configuration and get back to us with the results when you can...
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Okay, what I did was plug the DSL cable into port 1 of the linksys, and port 2 to my NIC, and port 3 to my roommates NIC. Weird thing is my PC is connecting to the net fine and his isn't. I even created a new connection on his and put in my ISP user and PW but to no avail.
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Well, if noone has any slick tactic for me to somehow get this other machine connected now that my router is essentially a switch, it looks like I'll have to just pay more money per month for a different modem from my ISP. This may not be a bad thing though, because now I won't have to unplug my roommate every time I play BF2
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