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Are programmers the most frustrated lot?
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Hi,
I have been talking to a few programmers online for quite some time now and one thing seems to be a common factor in each discussion, frustration of the job profile given to them. I would like to know from the professional programmers associated with this forum, the followings:
1. Are programmers the most frustrated lot among all the IT professional in the recent years?
2. If yes, then what the reasons are?
3. Many have been telling me that most of the graduate programmers leave the programming field for good just after 5 years on average. Is it any way true?
4. If yes, then what they do after leaving programming for good?
5. Programmers are always under pressure form the managers and management and often feel being neglected and underpaid and overused. If this is the case, what could be the solutions?
I hope you all will share you thoughts with me. Thanks and happy new year and an error free 12 months.
I have been talking to a few programmers online for quite some time now and one thing seems to be a common factor in each discussion, frustration of the job profile given to them. I would like to know from the professional programmers associated with this forum, the followings:
1. Are programmers the most frustrated lot among all the IT professional in the recent years?
2. If yes, then what the reasons are?
3. Many have been telling me that most of the graduate programmers leave the programming field for good just after 5 years on average. Is it any way true?
4. If yes, then what they do after leaving programming for good?
5. Programmers are always under pressure form the managers and management and often feel being neglected and underpaid and overused. If this is the case, what could be the solutions?
I hope you all will share you thoughts with me. Thanks and happy new year and an error free 12 months.
Last edited by tech291083; Jan 4th, 2007 at 8:53 am.
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Originally Posted by tech291083 
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1. Are programmers the most frustrated lot among all the IT professional in the recent years?
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Originally Posted by tech291083
2. If yes, then what the reasons are?
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Originally Posted by tech291083
3. Many have been telling me that most of the graduate programmers leave the programming field for good just after 5 years on average. Is it any way true?
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Originally Posted by tech291083
4. If yes, then what they do after leaving programming for good?
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Originally Posted by tech291083
5. Programmers are always under pressure form the managers and management and often feel being neglected and underpaid and overused. If this is the case, what could be the solutions?
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Originally Posted by tech291083
Hi
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1. Are programmers the most frustrated lot among all the IT professional in the recent years?
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2. If yes, then what the reasons are?
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3. Many have been telling me that most of the graduate programmers leave the programming field for good just after 5 years on average. Is it any way true?
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4. If yes, then what they do after leaving programming for good?
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5. Programmers are always under pressure form the managers and management and often feel being neglected and underpaid and overused. If this is the case, what could be the solutions?
On a final note, good and hard working programmers are never neglected. Also programmers program due to their inherent interest in the field not only for the sake of money.
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Thanks and happy new year and an error free 12 months.
I don't accept change; I don't deserve to live.
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First of all I have to say I have no experience in anything but web "programming" (not the real thing ).
However, sometimes I find it very frustrating when I just cannot workout why something is wrong but i would expect this to be similar in say just your standard tech suppost guy. But I find that when programming the pay backs are immense because you actually create something there and then yourself whereas if you are doing a job like IT support then the only satisfaction is knowing that you have fixed someones problem of accidentally losing the word icon on their desktop.
I don't think you could really call programming the most frustrating IT occupation. But it has its moments
).However, sometimes I find it very frustrating when I just cannot workout why something is wrong but i would expect this to be similar in say just your standard tech suppost guy. But I find that when programming the pay backs are immense because you actually create something there and then yourself whereas if you are doing a job like IT support then the only satisfaction is knowing that you have fixed someones problem of accidentally losing the word icon on their desktop.
I don't think you could really call programming the most frustrating IT occupation. But it has its moments
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Originally Posted by roryt
First of all I have to say I have no experience in anything but web "programming" (not the real thing
However, sometimes I find it very frustrating when I just cannot workout why something is wrong but i would expect this to be similar in say just your standard tech suppost guy. But I find that when programming the pay backs are immense because you actually create something there and then yourself whereas if you are doing a job like IT support then the only satisfaction is knowing that you have fixed someones problem of accidentally losing the word icon on their desktop.
I don't think you could really call programming the most frustrating IT occupation. But it has its moments
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a) Users/clients. Yes I know they pay the bills but it doesn't half **** me off when I complete a piece of work that meets their initial requirements then some bright spark comes up with an idea that requires a total refactoring of it. Ok, my company will charge extra for this but I don't see any of it and I'm the one who gets bored out of my face re-doing their bloody change requests.
b) Meetings. They just bore me but are pretty unavoidable so I guess I can put up with them.
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The rest of the job is fine.
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Originally Posted by pty
As a developer the two things that get on my nerves most are
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a) Users/clients. Yes I know they pay the bills but it doesn't half **** me off when I complete a piece of work that meets their initial requirements then some bright spark comes up with an idea that requires a total refactoring of it. Ok, my company will charge extra for this but I don't see any of it and I'm the one who gets bored out of my face re-doing their bloody change requests.
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Hi,
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1. Are programmers the most frustrated lot among all the IT professional in the recent years?
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2. If yes, then what the reasons are?
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3. Many have been telling me that most of the graduate programmers leave the programming field for good just after 5 years on average. Is it any way true?
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4. If yes, then what they do after leaving programming for good?
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5. Programmers are always under pressure form the managers and management and often feel being neglected and underpaid and overused. If this is the case, what could be the solutions?
cheers
Matt
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Originally Posted by nschessnerd
Hi!
I think we are, and it takes a lot to stick with it. (especially if your not getting paid) I have been programming for about a year, and i have had my share of challenges. You just gotta take a break sometimes and figure it out.
Depending on the complexity of a program it can take anywhere from a week to a month to find a missing semicolin.
Im still in my 2nd year of highschool, and i have lightly used around 20 langugages. I work for my sysad who was a programmer but got sick of it. he is 21 now and hates it. I think its just system administration isnt as logic intensive.
often it is logic and hardware, but i had a teacher once who had left assembely to become a logic and java teacher.
I think, it has to do with the psychology of the environment. If one works in a healthy environment, he will often be happy.
cheers
Matt
Very good and realworld reply. Appreciated.
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Originally Posted by roryt
First of all I have to say I have no experience in anything but web "programming" (not the real thing
However, sometimes I find it very frustrating when I just cannot workout why something is wrong but i would expect this to be similar in say just your standard tech suppost guy. But I find that when programming the pay backs are immense because you actually create something there and then yourself whereas if you are doing a job like IT support then the only satisfaction is knowing that you have fixed someones problem of accidentally losing the word icon on their desktop.
I don't think you could really call programming the most frustrating IT occupation. But it has its moments
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