Hello, I have a new web site and I don't want to have the Google Sand Box efecct. How many backlinks a month could I have, for dont' have the google sand box efecct.

Thanks

The Google sandbox is just a myth which is meant to explain the phenomenon of new domains not ranking well in Google regardless of their traffic, backlinks, etc. I think.

Their is a sandbox as Matt Cutts has admitted to it. What no one knows is exactly what it is. No one knows the answer to your question. No one knows why one site is sandboxed and another is not. The whole links thing is just a theory. Basically as long as you don't do anything to try to manipulate their SERPs I wouldn't worry about it. For all you know you may get sandboxed regard;ess of what you do.

Webmasters know that if we want to have traffic, we need backlinks. I was reading that sandbox (there ins't information) come since 2004, I have any web before 2004 and I hadn't this problem. Now with this site I have take care, a lot of links with a short time, google may be seeing and delete my site, but if I dont' have backlinks, there inst' traffic.
Anyway have 10 backlinks a month will be well?
What do you think?

No one knows. No one knows if backlinks cause the sandbox to be triggered or not and if it does what exactly causes it.

Also, you will never be banned for getting backlinks. If this were true your competitors can get you banned by simply linking to you.

Just go out and promote your site normally. If you do you have nothing to worry about.

I agree that the sandbox is a myth, and something people get obsessed about for no reason.

To get good rankings in Google, and avoid penalties, I'd say go for good on-page optimisation, and aim to increase your backlinks at a sensible rate. If you try and get too many backlinks too quickly, especially via "suspect" methods, you may get penalised.

Just do sensible optimisation, have some patience, and you should start to get results.

Howard

FYI, Google admitted there is a sandbox. Can't be a myth if they acknowledge it. Now what exactly is the sandbox is another debate entirely.

The quotes I've seen from Matt Cutts at Google are:

"There are some things in the algorithm that may be perceived as a sandbox that doesn't apply to all industries"

and

"In reply to a question from Brett Tabke, Matt said that there wasn't a sandbox, but the algorithm might affect some sites, under some circumstances, in a way that a webmaster would perceive as being sandboxed"

That's a bit different from saying Google acknowledges the sandbox. When talk of the sandbox first took hold, many people thought that all new webpages (or websites or webdomains, depending on your point of view) would automatically be placed in the sandbox for a period of some months. Nowadays, people say that it depends on what keywords you're targeting.

The Matt Cutts quote above specifically talks about it affecting "some sites under certain circumstances". I think this is much more likely to be related to suspect link-building, and the way Google detects unnatural growth in links, and holds back on realising full PR for those links until the site has had a chance to prove itself.

This is quite separate from being penalised in the Google rankings, which is the effect that many connect with the sandbox. In other words, if link building is done carefully, at a sensible rate, and you carry out plenty of on-page optimisation (the part that often gets overlooked), there's no reason I know of that menas your page can't rank well within a few weeks or months of being indexed.

Howard

Call it what you want, it's a sandbox. The basic definition of the sandbox (and we'll ignore the worthless definitions offered by newbies that cover it in extensive detail that they made up) is some new sites don't get the "full treatment" from Google for some unknown reason shortly after launching. By that definition what Matt Cutts is talking about is a sandbox. He just puts a positive spin on it.

And I never said it affected everybody as it quite clearly doesn't. Unfortunately there is no evidence as to what causes mostly because no one has tried to figure that out properly.

Hello

You may wanna call it any thing but to a lesser extent, it may be un-true. Why?

Believe me if you follow proper, simple and clean On-Page optimization techniques you will get indexed and will get ranked. It is only that Yahoo and MSN are much more faster in refreshing results than Google.

What you should Actually be worried about is the SUPPLEMENTAL INDEX! Just for a quick definition, google has two sets of indexes. One is the Main Index (where we see our main results) and second is the Supplemental Index. Our pages fall into that index for various reasons and getting them out can be a tough job some-times, although not impossible.

I will discuss is in some other thread, as to how 80% of my client's website urls fell into supplemental index and then how i pulled almost 60% of it out.

Again, sandbox is the un-known timeframe until you see your website getting ranked!

Thank you