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At the moment, if you are just learning, neither.
Learn how to write programs using a simple tet editor (with syntax highlighting, maybe), while compiling, executing, and packaging from the command line. Once you have a good grip on all of that, then it would be a good idea to start worrying about an IDE.
Learn how to write programs using a simple tet editor (with syntax highlighting, maybe), while compiling, executing, and packaging from the command line. Once you have a good grip on all of that, then it would be a good idea to start worrying about an IDE.
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Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it.
--Brian Kernighan
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Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it.
--Brian Kernighan
and at that time, you should just try several and decide for yourself...
Personally I think neither is all that good, but Eclipse is better than Netbeans overall (though for someone in the early stages of their journey through lalaland the only difference that really matters is the performance, as Netbeans is terribly slow).
Personally I think neither is all that good, but Eclipse is better than Netbeans overall (though for someone in the early stages of their journey through lalaland the only difference that really matters is the performance, as Netbeans is terribly slow).
As people are clearly allowed to attack me but I'm not allowed to defend myself, I no longer post to this site.
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Personally, I like Eclipse. Certainly better than NetBeans. These guys are right though, you don't really need 2 learning curves at once.
As a first tool, I'd recommend TextPad. It's mostly text editor with a lil'bit of IDE mixed in.
http://www.textpad.com/index.html
http://www.textpad.com/support/faq/java.html
As a first tool, I'd recommend TextPad. It's mostly text editor with a lil'bit of IDE mixed in.
http://www.textpad.com/index.html
http://www.textpad.com/support/faq/java.html
Last edited by 5up3rJ; Apr 4th, 2007 at 10:49 pm.
No, it didn't.
Maybe 5.5 does, but a colleague just tried it this week at work (and that was 5.5) and it was hideously slow.
2.6GHz machine, 1.5GB RAM, just displaying the open file dialog took several minutes.
Changing directories in the thing took long enough to go get a cup of coffee and drink it.
He didn't get around to opening and editing files, the day was over before Netbeans got around to that...
My experiences with 5.0 on similar hardware are identical or worse.
IntelliJ flies on my machines which have identical specs to that one. Eclipse works reasonably fast as well.
Both are also written in Java...
Maybe 5.5 does, but a colleague just tried it this week at work (and that was 5.5) and it was hideously slow.
2.6GHz machine, 1.5GB RAM, just displaying the open file dialog took several minutes.
Changing directories in the thing took long enough to go get a cup of coffee and drink it.
He didn't get around to opening and editing files, the day was over before Netbeans got around to that...
My experiences with 5.0 on similar hardware are identical or worse.
IntelliJ flies on my machines which have identical specs to that one. Eclipse works reasonably fast as well.
Both are also written in Java...
As people are clearly allowed to attack me but I'm not allowed to defend myself, I no longer post to this site.
>Changing directories in the thing took long enough to go get a cup of coffee and drink it.
I admit neatbeans is slow to start, but I've not had much speed problems when actually in it. Eclipse appears to be slightly faster though. And all in all, for GUI builders I prefer eclipse over netbeans now.
However, cclipse and netbeans are bloated much like Visual Studio - but then you would expect that with GUI builders and all the other features they offer etc.
@Phaelex, what parts of netbeans did you find easier to use than netbeans. Just wonderin.
I admit neatbeans is slow to start, but I've not had much speed problems when actually in it. Eclipse appears to be slightly faster though. And all in all, for GUI builders I prefer eclipse over netbeans now.
However, cclipse and netbeans are bloated much like Visual Studio - but then you would expect that with GUI builders and all the other features they offer etc.
@Phaelex, what parts of netbeans did you find easier to use than netbeans. Just wonderin.
Last edited by iamthwee; Apr 9th, 2007 at 4:26 pm.
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