Video editing == Cutting crime (don't incriminate yourselves)

Sorry you totally lost me here, what is your point?

Sorry you totally lost me here, what is your point?

Maybe there is a downside to posting video on the net. Just about
everything is illegal these days. I've been shooting DV for 4 years
now. Doing a drive around and videoing will always result in somebody
doing and being with someone they shouldn't. I've videoed over a dozen
political forums. They show the question rigging and plants. Take the
camcorder anywhere and you will find some kind of an infraction of
the law.

So, you video people without their knowledge or concent? Surely that is highly illegal if you are releasing it.

Though I still fail to see the point of this thread. Can you explain what I am meant to think, feel or see from it? It is already well known that when you study something, no matter what precations you take, you will change its behaviour. And it is also well known that people do things that they don't want the general public to know.

So, you video people without their knowledge or concent? Surely that is highly illegal if you are releasing it.

Though I still fail to see the point of this thread. Can you explain what I am meant to think, feel or see from it? It is already well known that when you study something, no matter what precations you take, you will change its behaviour. And it is also well known that people do things that they don't want the general public to know.

At public debates they know I'm there. Some don't like it. All kinds
of video is released on tv without the consent of passers by. I'll keep
doing it untill there is trouble.

If you had done nearly as much video as I have then maybe you
will get it. I use different techniques when in a crowd. I hold the
camcorder well over my head and not pointing it at anyone in particular.
That seems to work.

of video is released on tv without the consent of passers by. I'll keep
doing it untill there is trouble.

Now there is a sensible plan. :rolleyes:

If you had done nearly as much video as I have then maybe you
will get it. I use different techniques when in a crowd. I hold the
camcorder well over my head and not pointing it at anyone in particular.
That seems to work.

So explain it to me, not everyone cares about your hobby as everyone is into different things. I have asked you to tell me about what you mean, and more about it. Think about it - I am the only person to reply to this thread, what does that tell you? It tells me at least two things:

1. Either nobody is interested
2. Nobody understands and you wont explain

Again, please explain, as I am genuinely curious about it.

Now there is a sensible plan. :rolleyes:

So explain it to me, not everyone cares about your hobby as everyone is into different things. I have asked you to tell me about what you mean, and more about it. Think about it - I am the only person to reply to this thread, what does that tell you? It tells me at least two things:

1. Either nobody is interested
2. Nobody understands and you wont explain

Again, please explain, as I am genuinely curious about it.

With video on phones etc. More and more video is being shot.
I've done lots the last 4 years. All I'm saying is be more careful
than me.

1 - Video forums are more interested. That's for sure

2 - I don't think I'm very good at explaining things.

I bet the guy that shot the Rodney King video didn't ask for
permission. How come he wasn't charged?

Nature & digital video tips. For the Here and Now.

Many short video clips are best, especially when a file gets corrupted.

Use manual zoom (move in close) over optical or digital zoom

Shoot shoot and shoot, storage is almost free and or unused.
The more you shoot, the more good video you get. That is a fact.

Use the highest video resolution setting possible, unless videoing politicians.
They just are not worth it.

Do not use a tripod unless you want a sky cam view or are using high optical zoom.
or trying to get close-ups in dangerous situations. Then tripods are OK.
I used 2 tripods once. One for the spotting scope then my Mini DVD camcorder
lined up right behind it. It worked great. The only thing I would have changed
was the exact placement of the bait, to where the setup was pointing. Used the
remote for zoom and for off/on. So the setup was not disturbed. High High zoom.

Use the camera like a flashlight. You will catch more action and won't get
tripped up as often. You will spot other video opportunities while shooting
this way, then quickly follow the new subject. I videoed a mouse getting caught
by a dog a few months back.

Keep the camera on automatic. Get to know how it reacts in various conditions.

When moving the camera do not use any zoom. In a vehicle creeping along, zoom is OK.

When moving and videoing; bend at the waist and extend the camera in front,
this helps eliminate the up and down movement from walking / running.

Do some commentary. Dubbing in later is just not the same.

Cup your hands around the camcorder in cold weather.

Bend at the waist and hold the camera under your chest during rain, snow
or when plowing through heavy bush.

Have an extra battery or two. Keeping the camera turned on and ready to shoot.
Mine is a mini DVD I have 4 rewritable disks (dual sided) 2 2/3 hours video
at the highest resolution.

Buy a power attachment that plugs into the cigarette lighter.

When shooting with a tripod. Use the remote to start and stop recording.
Eliminating the jiggle caused by hitting the on/off button.
The only time I went head to head with the old media I used my sky cam view
that showed them all UP. I recorded the whole event, they didn't. One candidate
desperately wanted to see what the other had said. Only I had it! I'll upload 2
of those videos.

The #1 and maybe the only reason for editing is to eliminate any criminal activity
captured. Do not incriminate yourself or others. There are 30,000+ laws in my home
province, so almost everything is illegal. You could explicitly prohibit Law officers
and other officials from viewing or using the videos against you. Everybody else OK.

If there is a beautiful sunrise or sunset capture some of that before and
after the main subject. They look good at full zoom every time.

Announce the date and time instead of having it display on the video.
Remember who these videos are for. YOU. Dates are handy and can always be muted.

Be prepared for confrontations. Some people just won't like being videoed.
The WhiteCourt Mayor asked me not to video their regular meeting!
Newspaper and Radio OK??

Videoing in family pictures with commentary is far better than scans. Video in Books
or Web Site threads, for playback in slow-motion. Video in EVERYTHING, completely
ignoring the "quality" nasayers.

When videoing a stationary subject make the final scene a nice portrait. On some
players that view stays on the screen. It works.

Small file sizes (2 minutes or less) allow you to quickly upload your best to the web
hosting sites, People just love fresh video of events.

Keep the position of the sun in mind. But do shoot in any light conditions
you will be surprised at the night vision capabilities of todays equipment.

Don't forget about taking still pictures. Some people don't have high
speed internet.

Do not keep the camera STILL. When in a car, creep ahead slowly. Run after
that Dog, Cat or Grizzly Bear (maybe not) Move like a Weasel, snooping here,
looking there, circling this and that.

At a fastball tournament I was a few yards past first base. Had the pitcher nicely
framed. By just pointing my hand, I followed the windup and pitch, then beat
the ball to home. Catching the swing and any run to first or the play
on the ball. The big old cameras just could not do that.

Short video clips make it much faster when doing timeline playback.
If you are showing the last few seconds of a short video
It is much quicker than seeing the last few seconds of a very long clip.
All I do is hit the off button then switch it right back on. Simple and
quick. During critical action I don't mess with anything. Sometimes I'll
stop and start the video when I hear swear words. That way I just don't
play the last second or 2 from that video then on to the next one.

Video in screen displays, of the video segments you want to show and don't
let those video purists intimidate you for doing it. It's quick and DIRTY.
There is so much degradation when converting to Flash & the Net that you
won't notice much difference. Turn the auto focus off for this only.

I rename the video clips right after download. ie Vid00012_clip01.mpg
vid00012_clip02.mpg ... then vid00013 for the next day or disk side.
A quick note as to what is in the lot is enough for initial cataloging.
This list I use as a control on what videos I have backed up to DVD's.
I can do the more serious cataloging later. Don't catalogue or edit when
you can be shooting video. Backups are a MUST.

Nature video is about content, not framing, lighting or other nit picky details.
you will miss too many shots fiddling and by not going out on less than perfect days.

Shoot almost anything wildlife or otherwise, even if it does not have much potential.
Nature will surprise you. You will capture some pretty goofy moments. I have.

Remove the lens cap at the beginning of the day. Too many good opportunities
are missed because of it. Like way way too many.

Get used to aiming your camera by looking over the top. Just like you would
a shotgun. Makes it easier to follow a moving target. Even butterflies.

When you camera is not tied to your neck or arm. Put it in it's case. You will
be less likely to damage it.

Don't buy a camera that is so expensive you won't risk it. Otherwise leave it at home.

Permissions: Can you get in legal trouble by videoing others? Forget asking!
Did the guy that shot the Rodney King video ask? Did the guy that shot the
JFK Dallas video ask? The "YellowHead speaks 1993" video ask. No NO and Maybe.

Background music can add to the enjoyment. Carry along your favourite tunes.
My best video this year was a close up of a Ruffed Grouse. He marched by in
time with the tune on the radio. It was perfect. What a bird!

My default setting for the recording light is on. Letting people and animals
know when I'm shooting.

At political forums etc the record indicator, has a strange effect on the
crowd. They know you are shooting. I often do a quick early scan of the group
just to get the apprehension out of the way.

Know where your camera is at all times. You might need to grab it and go.

Experiment lots and train your eye, for spotting the ACTION.

If I was doing video of hockey. I would want the cameraman on the ice.
Of a theater production I want on the stage to video.

Have a good MultiMedia player. I have the BEST bar none.

With short clips and computer timeline playback, you can eliminate editing
spending more time videoing. Much less video clutter as well. Work hard at
not editing. Rerendering / editing results in loss of resolution.

TimeLine playback OK Video editing NO
Video editing introduces complexity. Complexity BAD!

Break all the old video rules you can. Those that won't break, use.

I am sure there are many many more good video tips out there.

Now go shoot some video!

I have a couple more tips to add to my
Nature and Digital Video tips list.
Check the following clips out first.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2712850167775261588

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2491448387537557028

You can download the originals and take a more serious look if
you have video editing software. Somebody out there should be
able to explain this stuff away. Can't they. Anyway the tips are:
How to capture video artifacts of your own. Sorta like a strange art
Shoot clouds and sky with the sun at your back. Like in the video.
If you have a bird put it in the video. You'll capture more of them.
Because the birds seem to have the ability to see them too.

I find this thread amusing because just a little while ago you were saying why it's completely unnecessary to edit video. Hmm?

I find this thread amusing because just a little while ago you were saying why it's completely unnecessary to edit video. Hmm?

It's not really editing. Just using an editor. My custom player does
a reasonable job of slowing down the action. But I must agree that
editors do have a purpose in "better viewing of digital artifacts"

So technically I'm still not editing. Just viewing the detail with one.

I have yapped so much about not editing. That it came back to bite
me. That kind of stuff happens to people all the time.

>It's not really editing. Just using an editor.
Just using an editor.... to edit?

You're not making any sense.

>It's not really editing. Just using an editor.
Just using an editor.... to edit?

You're not making any sense.

Yes then again maybe no.

Is doing video of a screen displaying various video segments editing?

I think editing is taking an original video and cutting, chopping and
enhancing various parts of it with a software program of some kind.

But I could be wrong

Stop spamming your videos here.

I have a couple more tips to add to my
Nature and Digital Video tips list.
Check the following clips out first.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2712850167775261588

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2491448387537557028

You can download the originals and take a more serious look if
you have video editing software. Somebody out there should be
able to explain this stuff away. Can't they. Anyway the tips are:
How to capture video artifacts of your own. Sorta like a strange art
Shoot clouds and sky with the sun at your back. Like in the video.
If you have a bird put it in the video. You'll capture more of them.
Because the birds seem to have the ability to see them too.

OMG what a load of crap! You spent 4 years filming that shit ??? My 5-year-old grandson could have done better. After seeing those two worthless films I wouldn't waste my time downloading the originals.