Originally Posted by joshSCH

really? Wow...
Yea, Bush is a damned idiot.. I have no frikn clue how that man was elected twice by the American public! He's a complete dumbass! ...And this is coming from Republican. I dunno what yall think, but in '08 the dems are taking over

Originally Posted by Infarction

Unfortunately, Bush did mismanage quite a few things. On the one hand, I'll openly admit that. On the other, I worry what would happen if we'd had some pussyfooted democrat in office with a Republican congress. As we can already see with the Iraq legislation, things just aren't getting done like they used to. And I don't agree with lots of the typical Dem platform, so I'll be freaking when they have both the executive and legistlative branches again. And I'll be looking to move if the Clinton dynasty returns... (I would totally vote for Obama if it came to that)

Originally Posted by joshSCH

I know, its typical that the dems have a woman and a black dude as candidates. I think I'll vote for Obama too... I've looked at his platform, and he tends to be rather neutral. He's very intelligent too... I doubt America is ready for a woman presidesnt yet.

Hopefully the dems will offer America a change for the better b/c the republicans sure didn't do very well

Originally Posted by Infarction

I envision the Dems taking two approaches, one for each of their candidates (sorry, anyone but the big 2 are out):

Obama: A platform based on moderation, probably with a spin on regaining stability. Obama doesn't seem to even want to play the race card, which I find to be very respectable in and of itself. I find this idea most agreeable, possibly more than the Republican platforms (which I've not heard much discussion about), and I'm typically fairly conservative.

Clinton: a more radical "turn everything around" platform, and she probably will use the gender issue at some point. I sincerely hope she doesn't get office because I think she's too extreme for where the country is at the moment. Too much whiplash would only lead to the country hurting more than it is. Also, it would make some 24 years of Clinton+Bush family dynasties, and some fresh blood would be good at this point.

I wish the Republicans had someone who could compete with either of these, but I doubt that'll happen. Pretty sad, having only a 1 party system for this election...

Originally Posted by joshSCH

You know what, I don't even know who the Republican front-runners are. Yea, Clinton is way too radical and liberal for my tastes; Obama is definitely a more suitable candidate.
.. I'm too tired to talk politics lol.. I'll respond better tomorrow

Originally Posted by jbennet

Bush and Blair are both idiots.

Originally Posted by Ancient Dragon

what else would you expect from politicians

I just worry about the backlash that'll follow and how their successors will clean up the mess.

Originally Posted by jbennet

Bush and Blair are both idiots. I hope labour dont get in at the next General Election (yay ill be 18 in time for it!)

Originally Posted by jwenting

in fact Bush is far smarter than people give him credit for...
He is smart enough to know he needs good people to work with and smart enough to appoint them.
That's a lot smarter than most politicians...



Obama or Clinton will give you a mess that's bigger than you ever imagined could exist.
But it won't ever be reported as such as they'll make darn sure there won't be free speech (and with the media their lapdogs even that won't get out until you discover after 8 years that it's past time for elections).

Originally Posted by christina>you

I don't like Bush.
Let's just all vote for Hilary. =/ Lol.

Originally Posted by jbennet

I think obama is nice. If i were american id vote for him