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> Bad incoming links can cause webpages not to earn search engine rewards.
Isn't this what Stymiee is saying?
In any case, regarding my recip link directory, I think I left out one important piece of information. All forum posts currently add rel=nofollow to external links. The link directory does not use rel=nofollow. Therefore, when talking about the site as a whole, the only links which don't use rel=nofollow are internal links, sponsored links, and links in the link directory.
How bad is this??? Does it make things look link farmy, even if the links in the directory are of a good quality?
Also, canadafred, if you are in the directory, you should check out what I did to it today. Made some changes
Isn't this what Stymiee is saying?
In any case, regarding my recip link directory, I think I left out one important piece of information. All forum posts currently add rel=nofollow to external links. The link directory does not use rel=nofollow. Therefore, when talking about the site as a whole, the only links which don't use rel=nofollow are internal links, sponsored links, and links in the link directory.
How bad is this??? Does it make things look link farmy, even if the links in the directory are of a good quality?
Also, canadafred, if you are in the directory, you should check out what I did to it today. Made some changes
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I wouldn't worry about it. It's a big picture kind of thing and the big picture for Daniweb is very good.
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Originally Posted by cscgal 
How bad is this??? Does it make things look link farmy, even if the links in the directory are of a good quality?
Also, canadafred, if you are in the directory, you should check out what I did to it today. Made some changes
I woke up this morning thinking that maybe I'll masquerade as a professional today. My metamorphoses lasted about an hour.
Your stuff doesn't look farmy at all. Yours is a quality directory with only relevant web sites linked backed and forth. It should pose no trouble at all. This is not of the completely useless and careless variety. This is not the stuff the search engines should penalize. Yours is good stuff.
So much time and money being spent creating trash compacters. Hope they are enjoying the moment of glory, some of them.
Ya, I like the changes, especially the snapshots. I like little snapshots like that because it makes it easier to pick out the ones that only want you to visit in hopes that maybe you will click out through an Ad. I spotted three or four right away. I detest it even more when they make these Ads look like they are actually part of the web site's content, just a couple of textual phrases between two other lines of text. I clicked on one the other day by mistake. I despise that. Either it is an Ad or it is not an Ad ... anyway that's another discussion.
I better try to get some work done today.
Later
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Thank you for the relief in that my link directory is not hurting me, and for the much appreciated praise.
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Originally Posted by cscgal
Thank you for the relief in that my link directory is not hurting me, and for the much appreciated praise.
I just finished writing about the power of links in natural working web page relationships. Relevancy and natural development gain the highest link rewards.
The days are numbered for the victory by volume strategists. Artificial inflation of importance has been dealt another blow.
Last edited by canadafred; May 23rd, 2007 at 5:49 pm. Reason: corrections
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... forgot something ...
I mentioned this at a Usenet group today and thought it might clarify this a bit too ...
" I think the search engines are moving more towards the natural
evolution of links, and so they should. Unique, richly crafted content
that is well presented to the web visitor turns into a telephone call
more frequently than empowered garbage. Links acquired based on a web designer thinking its content would be of value for his web visitor is a natural link, based on merit earned from the content.
Concentrate on crafting your content. Sure, go solicit for some links
from relevant themed sources, but this type of activity should be kept at a minimum.
Your internal linking is usually more valuable than incoming links.
As far as the rel="nofollow" goes. I can't seem to understand why the search engine came up with this. If you don't want a spider to follow what you do want an Internet visitor to follow then the search engine doesn't get to see what your webpage thinks is relevant content. This seems like another compromise headed for the chopping block. "
I mentioned this at a Usenet group today and thought it might clarify this a bit too ...
" I think the search engines are moving more towards the natural
evolution of links, and so they should. Unique, richly crafted content
that is well presented to the web visitor turns into a telephone call
more frequently than empowered garbage. Links acquired based on a web designer thinking its content would be of value for his web visitor is a natural link, based on merit earned from the content.
Concentrate on crafting your content. Sure, go solicit for some links
from relevant themed sources, but this type of activity should be kept at a minimum.
Your internal linking is usually more valuable than incoming links.
As far as the rel="nofollow" goes. I can't seem to understand why the search engine came up with this. If you don't want a spider to follow what you do want an Internet visitor to follow then the search engine doesn't get to see what your webpage thinks is relevant content. This seems like another compromise headed for the chopping block. "
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Yesterday I went ahead and made a change to my rel=nofollow policy. While it is still enabled in the forums, since IMO external links within forum posts are not meant to be "endorsed" by the website, blog entries posted by staff writers as well as featured blog entries do not use rel=nofollow. Therefore, the natural linking to/from the blogosphere is not broken.
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Originally Posted by canadafred
Concentrate on crafting your content. Sure, go solicit for some links from relevant themed sources, but this type of activity should be kept at a minimum.
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Originally Posted by canadafred
Your internal linking is usually more valuable than incoming links.
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Originally Posted by canadafred
As far as the rel="nofollow" goes. I can't seem to understand why the search engine came up with this. If you don't want a spider to follow what you do want an Internet visitor to follow then the search engine doesn't get to see what your webpage thinks is relevant content. This seems like another compromise headed for the chopping block. "
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Originally Posted by stymiee
You should seek every link you can get that is related to your site. Limiting yourself wouldn't be maximizing your potential incoming links. Not only is this good for SEO, it's a natural way to promote a site.
Soliciting, renting, buying, borrowing, begging and arm wrestling for links in not a part of SEO at all. That is the game of linking strategists, a mostly pitiful lot who give the art of SEO a bad name.
Last edited by canadafred; May 26th, 2007 at 5:37 pm. Reason: removed sarcasm for better readability
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Originally Posted by canadafred
It isn't natural to seek links. It is natural to build website content. Natural infers to something happening on its own. In this case, links being given based on some webdesigner thinking the content of the other web page is worth his visitors knowing about, as it is both related to his content and the other webpage's content serves as additional information for his web visitor. In SEO, it is about giving the Internet visitor a pleasant web experience.
Soliciting, renting, buying, borrowing, begging and arm wrestling for links in not a part of SEO at all. That is the game of linking strategists, a mostly pitiful lot who give the art of SEO a bad name.
In SEO, seeking links means seeking links that will have the greatest positive effect on your site's performance in the SERPs. Not coincidentally this coincides with the best way to market your site online: by getting links from high quality related sites. Having great content is key to being successful at this as without it getting those links is difficult if not impossible. But you just don't throw a good website up there and let it sit there. You must advertise it and seeking links is the way to do it online.
And giving the user a pleasant experience isn't SEO. That's just good business.
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