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Certification Poll
| View Poll Results: Which IT Certification Do You Consider Most Valuable? | |||
| Project Management Professional (PMP) |     | 1 | 5.26% |
| Novell Certified Linux Professional (Novell CLP) |    | 0 | 0% |
| Cisco Certified Network Professional (CCNP) |    | 2 | 10.53% |
| Cisco Certified Security Professional (CCSP) |    | 0 | 0% |
| Red Hat Certified Engineer (RHCE) |    | 3 | 15.79% |
| Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer (MCSE) |    | 1 | 5.26% |
| Cisco Certified InterNetworking Expert (CCIE) | | 4 | 21.05% |
| Other (with explanation) | | 8 | 42.11% |
| Voters: 19. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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I believe Infarction is right, certifications will get your foot in the door, but experience is what will get you the better jobs.
I have no certifications but I have college and high school qualifications in computers hehe
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None of those certifications are worth the paper they are written on because people can just read the book and pass the tests with no experience. That makes the certifications worthless. Experience is what really counts.
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reackon i could put daniweb down as work experience on my university application? im going for a computer networking degree
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Originally Posted by jbennet 
reackon i could put daniweb down as work experience on my university application? im going for a computer networking degree
Don't PM me with questions -- you might get a nasty PM in response. If you have a question then post it in one of the forums.
We generally don't hold certs in that high a regard here simply because anyone with a decent memory can pass them.
I have a MCP in SQL Server 2000 Programming but I only have it cos at my last place of work I was given the opportunity to have a week off work, expenses paid and do the training.
If i was a hiring manager I'd be more interested in a good degree and how they come across in an interview; whether or not they can answer my questions on the spot etc.
I have a MCP in SQL Server 2000 Programming but I only have it cos at my last place of work I was given the opportunity to have a week off work, expenses paid and do the training.
If i was a hiring manager I'd be more interested in a good degree and how they come across in an interview; whether or not they can answer my questions on the spot etc.
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Originally Posted by Ancient Dragon
None of those certifications are worth the paper they are written on because people can just read the book and pass the tests with no experience. That makes the certifications worthless. Experience is what really counts.
Memorizing and regurgitating information is one thing, being able to apply this information in a practical application is another, and that's where experience comes into play.
As for how you come by this knowledge, I would be more interested in hiring the person who was self taught and pass their certification. The person who learned by their own efforts may not have had the structured curriculum that a class would offer, but from my own experience I know that I have received a much broader education by teaching myself.
There are those that are auto-didactic and will actually do better outside of a structured class.
As for how you come by this knowledge, I would be more interested in hiring the person who was self taught and pass their certification. The person who learned by their own efforts may not have had the structured curriculum that a class would offer, but from my own experience I know that I have received a much broader education by teaching myself.
There are those that are auto-didactic and will actually do better outside of a structured class.
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Without these certifications, what good are you then?
No employer is going to hire you just because you say you have "good experience" backed up with no certifications.
No employer is going to hire you just because you say you have "good experience" backed up with no certifications.
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>Without these certifications, what good are you then?
Just as good as you are without them.
>No employer is going to hire you just because you say you have "good
>experience" backed up with no certifications.
I like to think that I have a bit of experience with this (having conducted quite a few interviews and made hiring decisions), and I'm pretty sure that you're wrong. It all evens out because the losers who think certifications are worth something will be hired by the crappy employers that think certifications mean something. And the superior candidates who let their experience talk are hired by the smart employers that look for superior candidates.
You don't need a certification to define what kind of worker you are.
Just as good as you are without them.
>No employer is going to hire you just because you say you have "good
>experience" backed up with no certifications.
I like to think that I have a bit of experience with this (having conducted quite a few interviews and made hiring decisions), and I'm pretty sure that you're wrong. It all evens out because the losers who think certifications are worth something will be hired by the crappy employers that think certifications mean something. And the superior candidates who let their experience talk are hired by the smart employers that look for superior candidates.
You don't need a certification to define what kind of worker you are.
Last edited by Narue; Jun 1st, 2007 at 3:45 pm.
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