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You would prefer that substances be tested on human beings instead?
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actually... yes! haha.
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You would prefer that substances be tested on human beings instead?

... some of them...
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i think they should be tested on Michael Vick! I never liked him or THE FALCONS anyway! lol
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i think they should be tested on Michael Vick! I never liked him or THE FALCONS anyway! lol
hahaha.. wtf?! I liked the Falcons.. And even though he is an idiot for hosting dog fighting competitions.. whats the big frickn deal? They're just animals.. what does it matter if they are beaten and killed.. not that I think what he did was right.. But from a strictly judicial stand point.. how is killing dogs illegal? What's the difference from killing a dog and killing a bunch of ants? What's the difference between slaughtering a pig or using a pig as a test subject for a specific drug. If testing drugs on animals can help us find cures for humans.. then why not??
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ha. Well i signed it! , and that DOESN'T make me a hippie! I just want animal cruelty and the testing of animals to end.


Like someone has already said though all this petition is for is another law. Its already Illegal and its still happening.

Really we should all be focusing on more important things then a few animals getting hurt or what animals are too smart to eat. Such as the 20,000 people a day dying in 3rd world countries. A superpower that has gone to shit over some silly family feud or even simply bettering ourselves as a race.
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What's the difference from killing a dog and killing a bunch of ants?

Mainly, that people tend not to think of ants as being cute.

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What's the difference between slaughtering a pig or using a pig as a test subject for a specific drug.

Because the drug testing might actually provide a useful result. Although I'd be willing to be the groups that claim such would also claim that slaughtering the pig, even for food, was also wrong. I've heard about some group (can't recall who) who've tried to draw a parallel between the food chicken industry and the holocaust.

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If testing drugs on animals can help us find cures for humans.. then why not??


Because they don't want cures for humans.
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actually... yes! haha.


On yourself of course. As you so graciously decided that it should be tested on humans you're morally required to vollunteer yourself as a guinea pig.

Of course the vast majority of people screaming that testing should be done on humans are hypocrits and won't vollunteer.
They'd rather see the return of the Nazi and Japanese death camps where people you don't like are used as experimental subjects before being disected while still alive to see what the substance under testing actually does to the living body.
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and you are who to say i'm a hypocrite? Do you even KNOW me to say that i wouldn't?! HECK yes i'd volunteer to use my body on testing! Especially if it's for something thats going to help EVERYONE else, YES i would! LOL and who said anything about anyone being disected while they are alive?! lol All i'm saying is animals shouldn't be beaten up or burned, or ELECTRICUTED just because the owner is frustrated and can't deal with your own miserable life, or because they're bored and decide to take it out on an innocent animal that had NOTHING to do with it! I volunteer that the humane society, and i see a lot of mistreated animals all because some MORON can't deal with his own issues.
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and you are who to say i'm a hypocrite? Do you even KNOW me to say that i wouldn't?! HECK yes i'd volunteer to use my body on testing! Especially if it's for something thats going to help EVERYONE else, YES i would! LOL and who said anything about anyone being disected while they are alive?! lol All i'm saying is animals shouldn't be beaten up or burned, or ELECTRICUTED just because the owner is frustrated and can't deal with your own miserable life, or because they're bored and decide to take it out on an innocent animal that had NOTHING to do with it! I volunteer that the humane society, and i see a lot of mistreated animals all because some MORON can't deal with his own issues.


If you will reread what Jwenting wrote, you will discover that at no point did he state that you, personally, are a hypocrite. He merely stated that the a "vast majority" are. And I find it interesting that your counterargument doesn't have anything to do with testing, but rather with active abuse. I fail to see that the two are connected.
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