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Originally Posted by Ravenous Wolf 
sorry. i dont understand what you mean. is it not christianity which says "believe as i believe or you will burn in hell!"?
Hollywodd wants you to think they are nuts, so they make Christians look crazy in films and TV shows. But they have an ulterior motive: They want to sin.
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Regarding "The Holographic Universe", I have read that book as well and found it fascinating...It's been almost 10 years since I read it though, so I think I may have to read it again...thanks for reminding me! 
Who wants to sin, Hollywood? If they believed in Christianity then they would not want to sin. If they did not believe in it they would not sin becasue there is no such thing as "sin" to them.
Last edited by jasimp; Sep 25th, 2007 at 8:13 pm.
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Originally Posted by Ancient Dragon
from purely efficient point of view, dictatorship is obviously more efficient because only one person (ok maybe a small group of people) make all the decisions, eliminating all the problems and delays associated with allowing the citizens to cast ballots. And that is one of the reasons why we in USA do not have a democracy ("mob rule")
"Democracy" == less efficient and strikingly so in general, but with patience a bit more comfortable if ones lives in Middle class\ borgeoius (like I do).
Socialist Democracy == Dare I utter this term within the borders of the United States?
* Perhaps the best of two worlds: Democratic vote on the matters the people\ citizens should have a say in (leaders, etc), and Government mandate on matters the citizens are not versed enough to have an open say in: Military, education systems, etc. Hmm-- This sounds a bit like the United States, no?
(* Canada, Holland, Germany, France, UK, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, all Socialist Democratic nations in theory at least (no matter what their Constitution states.) And, please note their Math\ Science testing scores, Internationally-- all top of the list versus the U.S. that ranks, what No. 16
; Please explain this empirical fact, someone, with a touching heap of the typical, irrational justification so rampant within our borders, here. Pathetic. 
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Originally Posted by mattyd
Government mandate on matters the citizens are not versed enough to have an open say in
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Originally Posted by jasimp
Who wants to sin, Hollywood? If they believed in Christianity then they would not want to sin. If they did not believe in it they would not sin becasue there is no such thing as "sin" to them.
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Originally Posted by mattyd
Dictatorship == more efficient, most definitely overall, yet not so pretty or nice to live under as history has noted.
"Democracy" == less efficient and strikingly so in general, but with patience a bit more comfortable if ones lives in Middle class\ borgeoius (like I do).
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Originally Posted by mattyd
Socialist Democracy == Dare I utter this term within the borders of the United States?
* Perhaps the best of two worlds: Democratic vote on the matters the people\ citizens should have a say in (leaders, etc), and Government mandate on matters the citizens are not versed enough to have an open say in: Military, education systems, etc. Hmm-- This sounds a bit like the United States, no?
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Originally Posted by mattyd
(* Canada, Holland, Germany, France, UK, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, all Socialist Democratic nations in theory at least (no matter what their Constitution states.) And, please note their Math\ Science testing scores, Internationally-- all top of the list versus the U.S. that ranks, what No. 16 ; Please explain this empirical fact, someone, with a touching heap of the typical, irrational justification so rampant within our borders, here. Pathetic.)
I will state, however, that from the historical evidence I've seen, anything calling itself socialist will either quickly fall apart, or have the leaders revert to something resembling a dictatorship/oligarchy in order to hold it together. Can you provide any counterexamples?
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I doubt the Netherlands rank highly in mathematical skill among the general population.
Sure kids get high grades in school but that's because our school system is fundamentally broken and grades are doctored to keep the percentage of failing kids artificially low (schools get paid per pupil, so they don't want to get a bad rep, therefore doctor tests to keep the scores high, this goes all the way up to university level).
In the meantime 50% of students studying to become primary school teachers are incapable of doing the math from the textbooks that they're going to be teaching 5 year old children out of.
Socialism can only survive in a totalitarian environment. Anywhere else it leads to constant infighting among cliques trying to establish such an environment. It's almost a law of nature.
Sure kids get high grades in school but that's because our school system is fundamentally broken and grades are doctored to keep the percentage of failing kids artificially low (schools get paid per pupil, so they don't want to get a bad rep, therefore doctor tests to keep the scores high, this goes all the way up to university level).
In the meantime 50% of students studying to become primary school teachers are incapable of doing the math from the textbooks that they're going to be teaching 5 year old children out of.
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I will state, however, that from the historical evidence I've seen, anything calling itself socialist will either quickly fall apart, or have the leaders revert to something resembling a dictatorship/oligarchy in order to hold it together. Can you provide any counterexamples?
As people are clearly allowed to attack me but I'm not allowed to defend myself, I no longer post to this site.
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"believe as i believe or you will burn in hell!"
On the democracy/dictatorship front, I know the US , at least in the past, has rather worked with dictatorships. They are easier to purchase and cooperate with.
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