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Hi, remember the last time a posted here...
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Got a few reviews... so recently i decided what the hell. Update the sucker. Here the link, any comments or suggestions welcome, good or bad
Thanks
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Got a few reviews... so recently i decided what the hell. Update the sucker. Here the link, any comments or suggestions welcome, good or bad
Thanks
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Please refer to....
http://www.daniweb.com/forums/thread88871.html
Most of that applies!
*And yes - I will keep refering peolpe to that topic rather than typing the same thing again and again because people keep missing what I think of as basics!)
http://www.daniweb.com/forums/thread88871.html
Most of that applies!
*And yes - I will keep refering peolpe to that topic rather than typing the same thing again and again because people keep missing what I think of as basics!)
Last edited by autocrat : Sep 7th, 2007 at 2:58 pm. Reason: Not so Subtle Hint to all others :)
Sometimes life holds wonderful suprises - shame I sleep through them all.
http://www.choose-easyweb.com - Not my design, nor my idea :)
http://www.choose-easyweb.com - Not my design, nor my idea :)
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Dont have to read your thread, im requesting a review. If i want to "LEARN THE BASICS" I'd pull out one of my books. So please move along buddy.
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Well, this is the revised and more mature response...
REVISE
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
Try using "" when setting attributes etc. within tags.
(style:nostyle -> style="notstyle")
Don't bloat your own code needlessly.
(style:nostyle ??? Simply don't put it in!)
Validate
If you bothered to validate, you'd find a listing of ove 100 errors!!!
Most of these ae iether caused by a single tag not being closed, or an open tag that shouldn't exist.
Further, correct use of "" will reove the rest!
If you really don't know what you are doig, or ar e not botheredto correct it yourself, the Validator has an option to "Clean up Markup with HTML Tidy" - which will do it for you without the need to pull out a book, or apply any thought or effort yourself
Text Doesn't resize in IE.
You have possibly used the PX measurement for Fonts/Text. IE chokes on this, so try using % or EM instead.
Text Resiz\e may break design in other Browsers.
Changing the size breaks the Tob Nav section, pushes the OK button for the search out of site, and breaks the text flow in the Services section.
Strange Hover Zones - IE
If you place the cursor just to the bottom right of Text in the Top Nav Bar, you get a flash effect.
This is dangerous to certain users, such as those with attention disorders.
Also the code should be fixed, or an epilepsy/seizure warning needs to be given!
No Link Title showig on Hover - IE
Possibly because you did not include the Title attribute in the Links.
Top Nav Links backwards?
When tabbing, you go to the Contact Us link beforethe Homepage link.
This may not be a major issue, but may cause some confusion for those using non-pointing devices to navigate the site.
Use of Tables could be supplanted with Divs.
This could make the code a little lighter and more accessible.
Why dare you calling external style sheets within the <body> section?
Why do you have Inline Styles ?
Why do you have Embedded Styles at the bottom of the page?
May be supply online email for the Departmets as well as the individuals?
No Sitemap!
So, there you go...
REVISE
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
Try using "" when setting attributes etc. within tags.
(style:nostyle -> style="notstyle")
Don't bloat your own code needlessly.
(style:nostyle ??? Simply don't put it in!)
Validate
If you bothered to validate, you'd find a listing of ove 100 errors!!!
Most of these ae iether caused by a single tag not being closed, or an open tag that shouldn't exist.
Further, correct use of "" will reove the rest!
If you really don't know what you are doig, or ar e not botheredto correct it yourself, the Validator has an option to "Clean up Markup with HTML Tidy" - which will do it for you without the need to pull out a book, or apply any thought or effort yourself
Text Doesn't resize in IE.
You have possibly used the PX measurement for Fonts/Text. IE chokes on this, so try using % or EM instead.
Text Resiz\e may break design in other Browsers.
Changing the size breaks the Tob Nav section, pushes the OK button for the search out of site, and breaks the text flow in the Services section.
Strange Hover Zones - IE
If you place the cursor just to the bottom right of Text in the Top Nav Bar, you get a flash effect.
This is dangerous to certain users, such as those with attention disorders.
Also the code should be fixed, or an epilepsy/seizure warning needs to be given!
No Link Title showig on Hover - IE
Possibly because you did not include the Title attribute in the Links.
Top Nav Links backwards?
When tabbing, you go to the Contact Us link beforethe Homepage link.
This may not be a major issue, but may cause some confusion for those using non-pointing devices to navigate the site.
Use of Tables could be supplanted with Divs.
This could make the code a little lighter and more accessible.
Why dare you calling external style sheets within the <body> section?
Why do you have Inline Styles ?
Why do you have Embedded Styles at the bottom of the page?
May be supply online email for the Departmets as well as the individuals?
No Sitemap!
So, there you go...
Sometimes life holds wonderful suprises - shame I sleep through them all.
http://www.choose-easyweb.com - Not my design, nor my idea :)
http://www.choose-easyweb.com - Not my design, nor my idea :)
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And I personally do not care if I get sxlapped for this...
How the hell can expect people to provide a resposne you you have made it quite clear that you do not care for the standards and the basics?
If you cannot be bothreed to perform your own Validation, why should anyone else be inclined to help you?
If you cannot be bothered to learn, to do things correctly and to make adjestmets that are needed, then please do not bother entering this profession.
There are far to many people ripping of busiesses and producing substandard sites that ignore all guidelines, usability advice and accessibility needs.
We do not need more like that.
So please make the changes that are needed, make your code as good as the design, do your job to the best of your ability, and be proud of it!
How the hell can expect people to provide a resposne you you have made it quite clear that you do not care for the standards and the basics?
If you cannot be bothreed to perform your own Validation, why should anyone else be inclined to help you?
If you cannot be bothered to learn, to do things correctly and to make adjestmets that are needed, then please do not bother entering this profession.
There are far to many people ripping of busiesses and producing substandard sites that ignore all guidelines, usability advice and accessibility needs.
We do not need more like that.
So please make the changes that are needed, make your code as good as the design, do your job to the best of your ability, and be proud of it!
Sometimes life holds wonderful suprises - shame I sleep through them all.
http://www.choose-easyweb.com - Not my design, nor my idea :)
http://www.choose-easyweb.com - Not my design, nor my idea :)
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Well quite honestly. Your a nerd, and justify everything with code. You belong in the matrix you loser. But anyway thanks for the review... http://validator.w3.org/, could have done it myself, and i shall look into cleaning up code
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Nerd?
No, simply the fact that I do my damnest to produce good, quality work that meets the standards, requirements and guidelines for this profession!
Now, I can appreciate that if you are a single site person, make your own company site - then this sort of thing may seem a little OTT.
If it is your first site, I could be more than fogiving.
The fact that your business claims to produce webstie, when you clearly have no, and obviously don't give a damn, I think you ought to hire a professional rather than outputting what could only be termed as Cr*p.
Seriously - if you cannot accept criticism about what you have produced, why bother asking for the review?
So people can go "oh, thats pretty", or maybe "I love that little bit there", and even "nice touch with the NNN"???
Well, you achieved it - it is a good looking site, with nice touches, good polish and finish and is visually appealing - shame the backend sucks.
Fix the backend, and you will ahve a site that beats the estimated 90% out there that don't validate, don't meet the usability and accessibility requirements etc.
Then you can look at your site and feel the much deserved enormous pride that you deserve to feel.
Otherwise, forget it.
I'll simply look at your portfolio and point my clietns to them so they cansee what they could get for their money - I'll make a flaming fortune.
Seriously, bitching aside - this profession has a lot of folks in it that do not deserve to be.
Do not join the already brimming ranks of pathertic morons who don't know and don't care. Be a professional, take the time and effort to make your sites worthy of your company name.
There are movemets occuring to push for Registration of Webdesigners - to distinguish between those that are professional, and those that are cowboys.
As/When that happens, where will you stand?
Head held high knowing you are doing your utmost... or raising your six shooters and firing aimlessly?
No, simply the fact that I do my damnest to produce good, quality work that meets the standards, requirements and guidelines for this profession!
Now, I can appreciate that if you are a single site person, make your own company site - then this sort of thing may seem a little OTT.
If it is your first site, I could be more than fogiving.
The fact that your business claims to produce webstie, when you clearly have no, and obviously don't give a damn, I think you ought to hire a professional rather than outputting what could only be termed as Cr*p.
Seriously - if you cannot accept criticism about what you have produced, why bother asking for the review?
So people can go "oh, thats pretty", or maybe "I love that little bit there", and even "nice touch with the NNN"???
Well, you achieved it - it is a good looking site, with nice touches, good polish and finish and is visually appealing - shame the backend sucks.
Fix the backend, and you will ahve a site that beats the estimated 90% out there that don't validate, don't meet the usability and accessibility requirements etc.
Then you can look at your site and feel the much deserved enormous pride that you deserve to feel.
Otherwise, forget it.
I'll simply look at your portfolio and point my clietns to them so they cansee what they could get for their money - I'll make a flaming fortune.
Seriously, bitching aside - this profession has a lot of folks in it that do not deserve to be.
Do not join the already brimming ranks of pathertic morons who don't know and don't care. Be a professional, take the time and effort to make your sites worthy of your company name.
There are movemets occuring to push for Registration of Webdesigners - to distinguish between those that are professional, and those that are cowboys.
As/When that happens, where will you stand?
Head held high knowing you are doing your utmost... or raising your six shooters and firing aimlessly?
Last edited by autocrat : Sep 10th, 2007 at 9:08 am. Reason: Refinement.
Sometimes life holds wonderful suprises - shame I sleep through them all.
http://www.choose-easyweb.com - Not my design, nor my idea :)
http://www.choose-easyweb.com - Not my design, nor my idea :)
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Originally Posted by macneato 
Well quite honestly. Your a nerd, and justify everything with code. You belong in the matrix you loser.
If you don't want honest and actually rather helpful replies, as this was in my opinion, then why ask people to review your site?
Serious question.
Davey Winder
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Information Security Journalist of the Year (2008)
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This is getting quite big anit it!? Even the Daddy is here. Well honestly, just a little sensitive when it comes to my sites. But autocrate. You have a point. Just a little hard to swallow at once. |
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