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Should I trust the Dell technicion?

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Hello,
I'm sorry this is long, but please help. I also apologize if this is the wrong place, it's my first post!

My dell laptop has been crashing recently and giving me the bod. I'm not terribly tech savvy so I wrote down the error code, googled it (I don't have it here with me but from what I gathered it wasn't a typical one and the most likely causes listed were a virus or a faulty memory stick), and called dell. They had me run the diagnostic, which showed no hardware issues, so since I'd backed up my hard drive when the trouble first started, they recommended I reinstall. I was hesitant because I'd had some issues with the external hard drive, mainly the accompanying software seemed to miss a lot, and I wasn't sure that my simply clicking and dragging the folders had covered everything (it also wouldn't allow me to safely remove the device because it kept saying it was in use even though everything had finished copying).

Fast forward to last week and my computer gave me the error message and I again turned it off w/out shutting down. This time when I went to restart it, I got the system32 error, telling me to insert the xp disk and push r to repair. I didn't feel comfortable doing it alone, so I called dell to have the tech walk me through. She directed me to boot from the xp disk and choose the install option. I asked her if we were attempting to repair and not reinstall and she assured me we were. She told me to delete the 1st partition and even though I was really hesitant, I did. When she told me to delete the 2nd partition, which was clearly my c drive, I refused and asked again if we were repairing. She said the reinstall was how you repair it. I told her that that wasn't what I asked, and that I didn't appreciate her directing me this way without asking me if I had backed up my files, or warning me of data loss, as the last dell tech told me they had to do. She told me to turn it off, and that would cancel the process. I asked about the partition 1 files I deleted and she said that the cancellation meant nothing was deleted. When I turned it back on, I had a different system 32 error, it didn't offer me the repair option, and the diagnostic only runs part of the way through because it says the files are missing and I need the drivers cd. She told me we hadn't deleted anything and that the change was because my hard drive is failing. She then put me on hold and I was "disconnected". The next tech I got, had me run the diagnostic, and he said that even though it hadn't run all the way through, it had passed the tests on memory and my hard drive. He still thinks I should wipe it, and we're supposed to do it tonight. Do you guys think that I should? My computer is under warranty so they have to replace any failing hardware. I'm sorry again it's so long.
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In my experience, its always best to get a warantee agreement from an actual retail location. I only get warantees on laptops and PDAs, but when I bought my gateway lappy four years ago, I bought a 3 year warantee from bestbuy. I've got an entirely new machine out of them (screen hinges were showing undue wear), a harddrive upgrade (mine started losing data when it was 2.5 years old), and another ram stick because I was persistent. The point is, being in an actual brick and mortar store gives you a serious edge over the tech support, because they can't hang up on you, and you influence all the other customers in the store. Tech supports bottom line is to look like they're trying to fix things without actually changing anything. If I was in your position (and I have been many times), I'd whip out that reinstall CD of yours and start over. If you got the machine at a retail location like compusa or bestbuy, i would bring it in to them to see if they would exchange it for you. good luck.
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It sounds as thought he Dell Tech was trying a reinstall instead of a repair install and you're out of luck.
It would be nice to know what the error was.
I'd go ahead with the reinstall, which is pretty straightforward. You could do this without their help.
You may have some kind of USB trouble, or the external HD or memory stick may be causing this problem.
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Well I spoke with a different technician last night and we determined that the last one had me delete the diagnostic partition when she tried to make me do the reinstall. We made a disc with the diagnostic tools and they had me run the customized test on the hard drive. It came back with no errors, but it was late at night by then, so I have to call them again tonight. I could probably try it on my own, but I don't want to do anything to compromise them giving me replacement parts should I need them.
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Well I spoke with a different technician last night and we determined that the last one had me delete the diagnostic partition when she tried to make me do the reinstall. We made a disc with the diagnostic tools and they had me run the customized test on the hard drive. It came back with no errors, but it was late at night by then, so I have to call them again tonight. I could probably try it on my own, but I don't want to do anything to compromise them giving me replacement parts should I need them.
Well that's why I would go ahead and reinstall so that you can rule out software problems.
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Hello,
I (it also wouldn't allow me to safely remove the device because it kept saying it was in use even though everything had finished copying). .
when this happens i always go to start, and log off user and then log back in ,you will then be able to remove the usb device .
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Re: Should I trust the Dell technicion?

dell diagnostics are very good. and if the tech says there is no problem, you can ask him to recheck the driver and firmware versions, but nothing else. system errors like the one you described are usually caused by external peripherals or software errors. so if the tech verified you had nothing attached to your laptop when the problem happened - you certainly have a software issue there, and he is right.
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Hey, thanks for the helpful responses! I think the reinstall is the way to go, I'm just delaying because I've not done it before. I haven't yet had a chance to plug my external drive into another computer to make sure all the data is all there. I remember occasionally unplugging my flash drive without properly logging off and not having a problem, so hopefully it's fine. It was definitely done syncing when I unplugged it, and I don't think it was spinning/busy. I will also be sure to tell the technician what the original bod error code was (I think I wrote down 3 0x00etc type numbers?). Just a couple of more questions (I'm not usually this neurotic, but I had a computer break three years ago, taking with it the photos from an Australian vacation). I have games that I downloaded, then used a code to unlock. They are saved to the external drive, but will I have to unlock them again? Also, I don't have my windows xp cd on hand, I borrowed a cd with multiple versions of window from someone who works in IT. Will I need my original cd and product code when I reinstall? Thanks again guys! I really do appreciate it!
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Re: Should I trust the Dell technicion?

if you want to reinstall properly, and LEGALLY - you need to use the Dell CD.
as for the HDD - oyu can never be too careful with backups - check and recheck them before erasing your current data.
installed programs need to be reinstalled and re-unlocked, a fresh install will bring the laptop to the same state you got it from the shop at, and I don't think you had any games on it then
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If you have your other install discs for drivers and programs you can use the install disc from IT Dell will give you a new product code make sure you keep it in a safe place and make sure everything you want is backed up nothing gets save on a reinstall you will have reformatted your HD and will have to put all of your divers and programs back on it.
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