We all know IQ tests are biased. The population who take it don't reflect the general population enough to judge whether a certain race is more intelligent than another. And intelligence is only one aspect of life.

I believe intelligence comes from education and one's surrounding. So, african americans, good amount of them coming from lower end socio-economic ladder have lower "intelligence." BUT mental capacity/potential are all the same among races but mere individual differences.

Josh also has mentioned having bad parents is no excuse - agreed. But imagine growing up your entire life surrounded by drugs and violence. You live in a place where most of the people are uneducated and there fore education and school is not emphasized. Grades don't get you respect but being more "gangster" like does or maybe your family is so poor that you are rather forced to work. The reality is not that simple.

Last of all, although someone has already mentioned this previously, I just HAVE to quote again, " There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Mark Twain

Oh, I forgot to add.

I have seen some articles about brain sizes and races. Whites had the biggest average of brain sizes. Draw whatever conclusions you like but significantly bigger brain doesn't mean significant increase in intelligence.

tell me...
what's it like being so predictable?

>lmao.. did you call me 'dumbo'? I believe that's what we used in preschool ?

Take a hint maybe?

And oh please. I havent applied to any Universities yet, and I'm beginning to think American Universities might not be such good options after seeing first-hand what they produce and try to pass off as "intelligence" (assuming you actually went to one and don't replace hard-drives at your local geek squad).

Furthermore, nobody is bashing your system. All I'm saying is that you need to stop pumping your chest. This we are the best and all others must bow before us! attitude doesn't help drive your point across, it just makes it seem that you started this thread just so you can get a chance to jeer and beat your chest. You can't expect anybody to take that sitting down.

And really "...try to bring others down..."? Really? Did you really just complain about that to me Josh?

Another thing, I really don't see the point of wasting time thinking of large words that don't drive my point across, so forgive my use of simple words and phrases. This is an internet forum.

I don't see what MidiMagic has to do with any of this.

As to my IQ, I couldn't tell you. I'm not narcisistic and I don't obsess over those kinds of things.

Yes I did say you can't prove that American Universities are better and I never bothered myself to prove to you that they aren't. I was trying to draw a line on the argument; this is a subjective issue and neither side should ever say with certainty "WE ARE BETTER". But as I said, reason is beyond you. And no, I do not accept rankings as proof. They are for the most part quite subjective.

And thanks for the offer Josh, but I do believe that I have received a quality secondary + college education. I would have never guessed you cared though.

Lastly, and just because at this point I just don't care anymore, you are a moron. I'm becoming quite sick of your parading around like a jackass on steroids making prejudiced, hate-inspired and self-inflating claims that not only prove how incredibly stupid you are, but give a little taste of your character as well.

lmao.. oh scru.. you are such an idiot. I have never started a thread with the sole purpose of arrogance in mind. This entire thread is dedicated to the IDEA that perhaps intelligence has a genetic factor among different races. If you think this is being prejudice then you really are a dumbass.

I was the only person with the balls to start this thread first.. I do not believe science should be limited in scope to prevent 'offending' people. If science can prove genetic differences in race then so what? I mean, no one had a choice of what race they wanted to be... but, do not make quick assumptions and refuse to even consider a theory simply b/c you do not want it to be true...

just shut up both of you ! discussion is okay but this is flaming

I think its time this thread was ended. If we were still on topic then i might say keep going because it was quite a good idea and i do agree with josh that science should not be restricted to political correctness.

Please don't give up hope. While there are some USians who go around spreading FUD about the rest of the world, most of us really are nice, mostly intelligent people. It's just the few bad eggs deal. And since credentials are so important in this thread, you can trust me because my degree is from the 16/17th best university in the world according to the earlier links.

cool

i only just noticed you were from the US redmond is the home of ms right?, i always thaught you lived in japan before because of the anime

OK, enough is enough, I am closing this thread as it appears to be heading into pointless and mindless flame territory...