Originally Posted by joshSCH

So I guess you dislike logic and statistics...
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Originally Posted by blud

I won't really make a post in this thread on the subject, but I will say that I don't think Josh is a racist, more of just an un-educated man mis-representing facts.

And Josh, an IQ of 135 is not really that impressive, so try not to gloat. Expecially when I'm around people that are 150+ every single day.

Originally Posted by joshSCH

hahaha.. oh blud, you crack me up. The point of my putting that damn disclaimer was so that people wouldn't call me '..an un-educated..'. I was not 'gloating' at all. But seriously, if you wish to attack me.. why not actually attack my post? Come back when you can actually debate the material at hand

Originally Posted by Ancient Dragon

No, but there is a place for everything. For example I can prove statically that women become pregnant when the moon rises. I suppose it is true that that is time time of day that women normally become pregnant but the moon is not the cause of pregnancy. We can make statistics tell anything we want. I could probably also prove statistically that your intelligence is in the lowest 10% of most men -- if I choose the sample of 100 men whose IQ is 135 or above and claim that sample is a statistical representation of all men in the world.

Originally Posted by Ancient Dragon

That was actually the reason for my original post -- you were gloating. Maybe you didn't realize it, but that's the way you came across to me and apparently at least one other person. Your original post would have been better had you not posted that disclaimer.

Originally Posted by blud

Because it's not my area of expertise. Judging others intelligence is a hobby of mine though.

Originally Posted by cscgal

I don't agree at all with the statement that because black people typically do worse than white people in education then psychologically they tell themselves education isn't important. Completely ignoring the first half of that statement, where is your proof of what other people are thinking?

Secondly ... to respond to AD's latest post, women are more successful in college than men simply because women mature faster. In our late teens/early twenties, we have our heads on straighter and care more about our studies and schoolwork than 19 year old guys, who typically want to party and aren't spending all their time thinking ahead about the future and how their school grade affects future careers. Our male counterparts simply settle themselves down a few years later when grad school comes around, at which time the roles get reversed and it's the guys who go on to grad school to obtain professional degrees (or at least, it's my opinion that there are more male professionals than there are women professionals). All just my own hypothesis, mind you.

Originally Posted by joshSCH

hahaa.. that is completely different. Women are more successful than men in college in what major? I can guarantee that this is not the case in engineering. Besides, for you to make any claim like that you need EVIDENCE. Also, there is statistical evidence that the average man's iq is the same as the average woman's.

Interesting perspective. I hadn't thought about the different rates at which men and women mature with regards to this statistic before, but your post certainly makes good sense of it. I wonder about the professional degrees though. As professional fields are traditionally male dominated, I had figured that women often had troubles coping with the environment or perhaps were disillusioned by the conditions facing them if they continued.