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Hello,

My old motherboard died without my having the ability to delete the old drivers off of the hard drive. I have installed a new motherboard and am attempting to boot into the old hard drive, however, Windows 7 will simply start up, try to load the files, and then enter a restart loop.

I know why this is happening. It cannot find the appropiate files to boot off the hard drive because the new motherboard is conflicting with the old drivers on the old hard drive.

I have attempted to boot off the Windows 7 disc and do a repair, however, it does not work. Right now I am dual-booting from a secondary hard drive, and I have full access to the old hard drive.

Basically, I need to manually delete the old drivers from the old hard drive, or find some way to install the new drivers on it whilst booting from the secondary drive. (In other words, I'm booting off D:\ and I'd like to install drivers whilst on D:\ to C:\)

How can I do this?

Things I will NOT do, and will not even consider, so please don't tell me to:
I will not wipe my old hard drive. The programs and data on it are too valuable. And while the data is easily saved, the programs are not and I'd have to reinstall. Some of the programs were obtained when I was in college and my college distributed free programs by download. Now that I am no longer in college, I'd have to pay hundreds of dollars for replacements (for example, Adobe Photoshop CS4 and Symantec Antivirus).

So to repeat, I will NOT consider a hard drive format and fresh install.

I am, however, willing to do any steps to manually delete or install new drivers, no matter how complex or time consuming the steps are. It is worth it to me. All I need to do is get rid of those old drivers. If someone could tell me how, I'd be greatful.

Specifications:
Intel Core 2 Duo Wolfdale 3.2ghz
4gb RAM
1000w PSU
ATI HD4650 Graphics
Windows 7 64-bit

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Have a look at this for starters:

http://www.daniweb.com/forums/thread142082.html

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Have a look at this for starters:

http://www.daniweb.com/forums/thread142082.html

most if not all info in that link is about winxp and not win7 ,and most of the help in the thread or links in the thread are not info releated to when your orignal board is a dead board ,like in the situation !
having said that i don't recall ever getting it to work for me with a brokem MB,maybe once when the new boards chipset was the same as broken one .
i would think it may be possiable with the lates UBCD/or hirens bcd .i have one here somewhere that has winxp lite on it that may get you in to where you could uninstall chipset drivers and stuff .but only used it once and not sure even what one it is that can boot to live winxp lite ,

hirens= http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd

ubcd= http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/

or live linux cd .= http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html


good luck

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found the disk i had and it was Hirens Boot cd no sure if the link i provide to hirens has the one with the mini xp ,someone gave me the disk i have ,.that had what is refered to as mini winxp ,and when i boot to i have access to my harddrive and was able to move throught the windows folder and others ,except mydocuments .
so if you know the drivers and where they might be you maybe able to remove them ,not sure it will get you what you are trying to achieve though

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It is possible i think to take a disk image of your old drive using Aconis True Image home, then clone to another drive without the drivers, this would solve your problem i think, as win7 will install its own so it will work, then install the proper drivers for your motherboard. Not as complex as it sounds, but would save you buying any other software again. Let me know what you think.

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I have successfully done this (6/10/2010), however my success may not work for all users.

Dead Mobo Hardware:
OS: Win 7U
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-MA790GP-UD4H
Ram: 8 gigs ddr2
HD0: 1 seagate 1.5 TB Primary
Hd1: 1 seagate 1.0 TB secondary
Nvidia gtx 275 Graphics (mobo also had onboard drivers)

New Mobo:
OS: Same Win 7U
Asus m498TD EV0
Ram: 4 Gigs ddr3
Hd0: Same 1.5 primary
Hd1: Same 1.0 secondary

(* First warning, be sure the HD settings are the same, if you used AHCI, use the same or default settings. If you did not use AHCI on the first mobo then DO NOT USE AHCI on the new one *)

Upon first try the system appeared to load but then locked on the Windows splash screen. Tried to boot into safe mode, but the same outcome. Booted safemode/command prompt and saw that the ATI PCIE video driver was trying to load. Since the new mobo was Nvidia based, this was problematic.

Fix was quick for me.

1. Wrote down the video driver name - (something like atipcie.sys)

2, Booted with Bartpc (or anyother utility that will let you boot and edit the NTFS partition)

3. Deleted the ati driver

4. Booted the drives on the new mobo.

5. installed new chipset drivers for the Asus.

This worked for me. I also had an MSI mobo but I had to copy vga.sys to the ATIpcie.sys to get this to work. Either way, Windows 7 was flexible enough to allow the new drivers to be loaded for the new mobo.

Hope this works for someone, Good luck!

Z.

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Have you thought about changing the hard drives so that D becomes C and C becomes d, then you can install Windows 7 on the "new" c drive and still access your old documents from the old c drive (now d)

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I Know this is an old post,
But I thought id share my experience incase anyone else is looking for a solution to this issue,
1. get a Hirens boot cd
2. boot into the mini xp Provided on Hirens
3.
In the hirens utilities, Find registry tools, and click on FIX hdd controller
It launches a dos window, where you select your target root, and choose repair.
It seems to delete the old driver out of current control set 00 from your registry, and replace it with generic version.

Worked like a charm for me!

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dcoetzee, this worked perfectly for me just now - I changed a faulty Gigabyte board for the identical model, and got this crap behaviour from win 7. No amount of windows 7 repairing made any difference, and easy transfer is only easy if the system is running - hardly useful in these circumstances. Thank goodness for Hirens, and many thanks for your post!
Surely this behaviour of win 7 could not be "by design"? - you bet your bottom dollar that it is. Remember that win98 would practically reinstall itself when you changed mainboard? How could MS have lost this capability? Answer: They didn't lose it at all.
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Not to sure whether this has been solved or not but from my experience the main problem is the cpu architecture. If for example your old system was AMD or old intel processors (meaning pre Pentium 4) then you have buckleys....I have on numerous occasions put a preloaded Win 7 HDD into various PCs to trouble shoot and have had no problems.

Hope that this helps.

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No, it was't a different platform, far from it!

A customer very recently upgraded to a corei3 on a gigabyte h61m-d2-b3 mainboard (new system).
Just 3 weeks after purchase, a storm spiked the ethernet port on the mb via the modem. Everything else was working satisfactorily. I advised changing mainboard instead of installing a nic as the mb is only $71 and changing it goes a long way to avoiding late appearing storm effects.

Identical mainboard - should have been a simple swap (I think that they were even the same production run). But no, windows crashed when starting, startup repair was useless, and a clean install on a workshop drive in the system produced perfect operation, so it was not undiscovered storm damage. More likely it was MS by accident or design... I'll leave the choice to you!

After removing the driver, win 7 booted successfully and then automatically reinstalled the driver with no assistance from me! It then pronounced itself satisfied (clean device manager), and has operated flawlessly since.
Don't you just love MS? (NO)

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Not doubting you but never had that problem.....but in saying that we are talking MS

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Just used the Hirens Boot CD 13.1 following advice above - worked perfectly!

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An infinite quantity of thanx to you all for the info here. Hiren's bootcd, the registry fix for HD controller... everything!! Worked just as described for Vista and saved my bacon!! Yet another MB change success!

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Sadly this didn't work for me.. I LOVE Hirens on a USB stick though, it is amazing! I ran FIX HDC and ran both options Target Root and Motherboard Drivers - was this a mistake? On reboot startup still fails and sends me into Win7 Startup Repair which claimed to succeed this time but upon reboot startup still fails. Sigh. Is there a way to copy my motherboard drivers into the Win7 Windows directory from the Hirens Mini XP?

Failing this I'm going to have to figure out how to reinstall Win7 from a USB stick as my new mobo lacks IDE and my DVD drive is IDE... oops.

DrD

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I know this is an old thread and you probably have your computer working after a re-install, but thought I would answer it for future readers who need the solution.


It is indeed possible to transfer your installation and it is not difficult at all!


There is NO need to reinstall. If you would like to keep your current configuration and applications, use sysprep.exe to prepare your Windows installation for the new hardware by entering the System Out of Box Experience. Sysprep will strip your installation of all drivers an detect and install the new ones on your first boot with the new hardware.

Here is a great tutorial at SevenForums. Follow these directions precisely and you will have no problems at all. (Do an image backup of your hard drive before starting to be safe)


If you recieve a fatal error when running sysprep, use msconfig and disable all startup items, restart your computer and then try again.


http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/135077-windows-7-installation-transfer-new-computer.html

When complete you will need to reactivate windows with a qualifying license.

Hope this helps!

Thanks

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I know this is an old thread and you probably have your computer working after a re-install, but thought I would answer it for future readers who need the solution.


It is indeed possible to transfer your installation and it is not difficult at all!


There is NO need to reinstall. If you would like to keep your current configuration and applications, use sysprep.exe to prepare your Windows installation for the new hardware by entering the System Out of Box Experience. Sysprep will strip your installation of all drivers an detect and install the new ones on your first boot with the new hardware.

Here is a great tutorial at SevenForums. Follow these directions precisely and you will have no problems at all. (Do an image backup of your hard drive before starting to be safe)


If you recieve a fatal error when running sysprep, use msconfig and disable all startup items, restart your computer and then try again.


http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/135077-windows-7-installation-transfer-new-computer.html

When complete you will need to reactivate windows with a qualifying license.

Hope this helps!

Thanks

will work im sure ,but i will go back to original poster as i have not read all the rest ,OP's motherboard is dead so no way he can sys prep tool

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will work im sure ,but i will go back to original poster as i have not read all the rest ,OP's motherboard is dead so no way he can sys prep tool

My goodness, I guess I should read things a little closer before posting a response. In this case, what I would do is try to find a someone with a system that has the SAME board, remove any additional hardware and boot it and continue with sysprep. If it was that important to me, I would even go as far as looking for one used on E-bay that is functional. Sure would beat the cost of re-purchasing all the software.

This post is fairly old so I doubt he is still in need of help. Also, not knowing the make of the board it is hard to estimate a price, but this is a very viable option for OP if he still NEEDS his machine to boot off of this drive.

For future reference, it would always be a good idea to sysprep any windows installation and make an image just incase we were to run into problems like OP's. The problem with that is a lot of us dont think about backups and image creation until its too late!

My, apologies for the irrelevant post!

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For future reference, it would always be a good idea to sysprep any windows installation and make an image just incase we were to run into problems like OP's. The problem with that is a lot of us dont think about backups and image creation until its too late!

My, apologies for the irrelevant post!

no need to apologize ,my post was not to say it was irrelevent info ,just wasn't relevant to OP.
it maybe relevant to some of the other posters, plus good info in link for someone who comes along with a working computer and they want to transfer there old drive to it

The problem with that is a lot of us dont think about backups and image creation until its too late!

most computer owners would not even know that they may someday need or want to do this to there new computer in case something happens down the road

you link was a good one and i will go study it to see if i can maybe use it someday
thank you

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well, AH1
U need to first boot from old drive, & start windows in safe mode.
After u log In safe mode U need to uninstall all ur old mother board driver, i.e. ur VGA, Audio, Chipset etc. after it restart & boot from windows 7 DVD & at the time installaton ask for fresh or upgarate.
Choose upgrade, ater it finished ur windows is now able to run from ur new Board.

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