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Xp is ending June 30, Petition to keep it, You might decide you dont like Vista later

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Help keep XP on the market

You might Decide later on that you really don't like Vista
and want to go back to XP

I haven't really made my final decision, if I agree with Vista or not

Their are pros and cons about vista
Pros
  • Major Kernel Overhaul
  • Networking
  • Media Center Improvements
  • Major Audio Changes
  • DirectX 10
  • New Built-In Apps
  • Aero Glass and the New UI
  • Security, Security, and more Security

Cons
  • No support for DVD drives lacking firmware region coding
  • New monitor needed to view Hi-Definition content
  • Vista will encrypt hard drives by Default
  • Vista may shorten the life of flash memory (by using it for caching via SuperFetch - only has 10,000 writes: bad idea)
  • Vista won't work with many graphics cards and will remove games developers' ability to cater for older systems
  • Drivers have to be signed for x64 versions of Vista

Only you can decide if Vista is right for you!!!
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Re: Xp is ending June 30, Petition to keep it, You might decide you dont like Vista later

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Vista will encrypt hard drives by Default
Can you explain that please?
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Re: Xp is ending June 30, Petition to keep it, You might decide you dont like Vista later

i vote for vista...ive had vista since about august of 2006, when it was in testing...and i still have it, ive only had to reinstall it about...3-4 times or so since than...

I have another PC running Xp Media Center Edition 2005...ive had it longer and probably had to reinstall it like 6+ times...in just the last about 2-3 months today is my third+ time trying to install it, and it wont detect my hard drive, i get lots of blue screens, when a program freezes, so does the whole computer...while in vista when a program freezes, i just minimize it until it unfreezes while i work on the other programs...and rarely does vista freeze...

I dont know how people are using vista, anything i install, old, new programs, everything works with vista...if one problem comes up, everyone comes straight to the forum to complain that vista sucks...any problem that came in my way i fixed it, spent hours or days, i learned something new, something better, and made my Vista better...and im still working fine with Vista Service Pack 1...NO problems...

So my vote goes for vista no matter what...I hate XP...i have built 5 computers....1 running XP...(mine, keeps breaking down) and 4 running vista, 1 is mine, 1 mine cousins, and 2 built for 2 of my other friends...all running vista, everyone says its running very smooth and fast, no problems...

You just got to take your time with vista, test it...testing means you run it for like a month and solve problems that come up...not run it for 5 minutes, an error comes up because of your mistake and you complain that vista sucks....remember...Don't judge a book by it's cover!

You want to know the real vista? test it yourself...

(P.S. Read my signature, it applies to this whole post)
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Re: Xp is ending June 30, Petition to keep it, You might decide you dont like Vista later

I hate Vista.
I have learned to use pretty much every Windows OS (95, 98, 98 SE, 2000, and XP) but Vista is so different and really hard to navigate if you are an experienced user. (Which I consider myself to be)
I have not judged Vista by its appearance, but since my friend got Vista she has experienced more problems with connecting to the internet and viruses than I have over the last eight years. (She got her new computer around one and a half months ago)
I have done some customizations, deleted stuff, and installed a better virus protection program (AVG free; we're going to get AVG pro soon) as well as added Spybot, activated Windows Firewall and Windows Defender (I actually like these programs...) but the internet still goes down... I've had to fix it three times in three weeks. (Today is the third time I'm having to fix it...)
So is Vista all that bad? I'm sure it isn't, provided you have the time to learn EVERYTHING about it. The only problem I see that's serious and unfixable is the navigation.

But I prefer XP. Vista is great if you're getting your first computer and don't know a whole lot, but if it's the future of the Windows systems, I'm going to have to switch to Red Hat or Mac.
Just my opinion.
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Re: Xp is ending June 30, Petition to keep it, You might decide you dont like Vista later

ive used xp for over the last 7 years and i still use it sometimes...but the navigation isnt all that hard, i find it easy actually...try getting AntiVir for viruses, and yes, windows firewall and defender works well too...
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Re: Xp is ending June 30, Petition to keep it, You might decide you dont like Vista later

Click to Expand / Collapse  Quote originally posted by scru ...
Quote ...
Vista will encrypt hard drives by Default
Can you explain that please?
To be totally honest, I put the pros and cons up as some kind of an example

I googled for "pros and cons vista" w/o quotes

And went to Pros & Cons of Windows Vista - Tech Support Guy Forums
(5th in the list of pros and cons vista I believe)

You can find several different sites by googling
"Vista will encrypt hard drives by default" w/ quotes
(That's what I used)

I think the encrypting of the hard drives has something to do with
Windows BitLocker Drive Encryption
(Which is something that comes on Vista Enterprise and Ultimate I think)

Its a paragraph towards the bottom

If there are questions about anything
Google it
Work your way down the list
Until you find what you're looking for
Chances are its already been asked and already been answered
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Re: Xp is ending June 30, Petition to keep it, You might decide you dont like Vista later

No no, I just found it weird because it never encrypted mine.
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Re: Xp is ending June 30, Petition to keep it, You might decide you dont like Vista later

Windows XP support is not going to end atleat for another 2 years so dont worry. It will continue to run for a while now.
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Re: Xp is ending June 30, Petition to keep it, You might decide you dont like Vista later

Click to Expand / Collapse  Quote originally posted by scru ...
No no, I just found it weird because it never encrypted mine.
I don't have BitLocker
Which from what is stated on the site about it
Bitlocker is only on Enterprise, Ultimate, and something about Longhorn

I have Home Prem.

Second paragraph from link:
BitLocker is the only conclusion that I can come up with about drive encryption!!!

If I'm wrong,
Someone feel free to correct
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Re: Xp is ending June 30, Petition to keep it, You might decide you dont like Vista later

Quote originally posted by Smalls;623622Cons ...
  • No support for DVD drives lacking firmware region coding
That's funny because DVD works in my machine.

Quote originally posted by Smalls;623622Cons ...
  • New monitor needed to view Hi-Definition content
And why is that Vista's fault? My old anolog tv doesn't work with hi-def either, so is that the fault of the local tv stations?

Quote originally posted by Smalls;623622Cons ...
  • Vista will encrypt hard drives by Default
Not a problem -- just turn that feature off.

Quote originally posted by Smalls;623622Cons ...
  • Vista won't work with many graphics cards and will remove games developers' ability to cater for older systems
That was a problem with Vista when it first came out too. So nothing new there.
Last edited by Ancient Dragon; Jun 18th, 2008 at 8:48 am.
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