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Sep 28th, 2004

Re: Networking 2 XP Machines with crossover cable and 2 Realtek Cards

It looks like the 2nd machine is not getting a DHCP lease from the ICS box. Check and make sure you don't have any static settings on there. If not you could try specifying the IP on the 2nd box as 192.168.0.2 with the same subnet mask as the 1st box (255.255.255.0) and the IP of the 1st box as the gateway. Also you can see if the Application Layer Gateway Service is started, although I don't think it would be required for your BT Broadband connection. Right now I'd be more worried about not having an IP on the second machine. If you didn't actually remove Zone Alarm now would be the time to do it...I've seen where even when the service for ZA is disabled it will still deny network traffic. If your DHCP traffic is getting rejected that would cause the no lease issue.

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Sep 28th, 2004

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Tried Ip address in 2nd machine still nothing.....if imove to a router is that easier if so what do i need??

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Sep 29th, 2004

Re: Networking 2 XP Machines with crossover cable and 2 Realtek Cards

Hmmm, I'm wondering why Netios over tcpip is disabled in your second adaptor, still I should think you would be able to get an IP. My personal favorite of little dsl routers is a Linksys with 4port switch built in. They've proven cheap and reliable and easy to configure.

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Quote originally posted by bentkey ...

Hmmm, I'm wondering why Netios over tcpip is disabled in your second adaptor, still I should think you would be able to get an IP. My personal favorite of little dsl routers is a Linksys with 4port switch built in. They've proven cheap and reliable and easy to configure.

NetBIOS over TCP/IP wouldn't affect this. If you've turned on ICS, it appears that some kind of firewall might be blocking DHCP requests from going out. Either that, or you've not set the client machine to automatically get an IP from the machine doing the routing.

...But I agree with bentkey: Get a hardware router, like a Linksys. It will save you tons of headaches.

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Yep...ICS is junk anyway and if it goes down, which it will, then you either have to know the services to restart or restart your PC - the router you can simply unplug, which is nice. A router also breaks up the physical networks which puts some space between you and the internet which is going to give you more easily managed and reliable security than hard to understand firewalls and ICS -- it's always good to take as much out of the networking equation as possible and for $50 it's really worth it.

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Sep 30th, 2004

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Right ppl... I went out and bought a TRENDNet 54mbps ADSL Home Gateway, is that right?.....how do i install it because it tells me nowt....*thick as sh*bleep*t!!! when it comes to instructions....do i still need my network cards..or use the ones on my computer?.....

Please hurry

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Model is TEW-435BRM

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Quote originally posted by mid ...

Right ppl... I went out and bought a TRENDNet 54mbps ADSL Home Gateway, is that right?.....how do i install it because it tells me nowt....*thick as sh*bleep*t!!! when it comes to instructions....do i still need my network cards..or use the ones on my computer?.....

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I don't like instructions either but you should probably read them. Since you already have the network cards installed you should be able to connect to the gateway over ethernet...the manual will probably know a lot more about this device than we do, I bet it even has instructions on how to set it up! Most likely if you set the card to Obtain an IP Address Automatically you'll probably be able to get an IP from the gateway...at that point you would want to log into the router and setup a password and configure DHCP if needed.

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Quote originally posted by mid ...

Right ppl... I went out and bought a TRENDNet 54mbps ADSL Home Gateway, is that right?.....how do i install it because it tells me nowt....*thick as sh*bleep*t!!! when it comes to instructions....do i still need my network cards..or use the ones on my computer?.....

Please hurry

Sorry, I've never seen one of those. I will have to look it up and see. You may have a problem if it doesn't have an ethernet wan port. Normally with a designation as ADSL built in, it expects to replace your DSL modem and it would have to match your DSL service. You just need one network adaptor in each computer, either adaptor is fine as long as it's working.

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Right I have connected all network cards in both computers, installed the modem router..it picks up both network cards with no probs.

It does have a Wan socket?...what ever that means

Tried connecting to internet staright away..no joy...tried putting my ip address along with primary dns in properties for connection..still nothing!!

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On my motherboard i have a via compatable fast ethernet adaptor (which is disabled).
Realtek card is enabled
Phone line from wall socket to Wan socket on router
Lan cable from router to realtek card
Lan 2 cable to 2nd PC

The only thing the CD that is supplied with this model gives u is the manual aarrrgghhh!!!... Tells you to get the Subnet mask?...and ip settings
Also VPI or VCI ????

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