Replaced video card, now no power (as in NO power).

[Kiel]

Okay so here's how it's happened.

With an old 700mhz CPU, a MSI ms-6309 mobo, some 20gig HDD and about 380mb of ram, I cracked her open and installed a new video card. Oh and the "old" (old being the one before the one I'm installing) card was some 16mb piece of shit. Anyways, I install a 64mb Nvidia and hope for the best. It doesn't work (series of beeps from my motherboard), and I can't be bothered figuring out why, so I simply put in the 16mb, install the drivers from the 64mb's CD, and shut down.

I remove the 16mb once again, put in the 64mb, and it still doesn't work. So I put the 16mb in yet again, and everything's back to normal. I decide to remove the 64mb's drivers, though since they're the same manufacturer, I removed the 16mb's.

So of course the PC was sitting there with Quake and Counterstrike unplayable because of it's non-changeable 16 color 640 x 480 setting. I buy a 16mb card from eBay, and get fed up waiting.

I open her up, grab a motherboard I had lieing around, unplug EVERYTHING from the ms-6309, put in the found motherboard, and realise the case doesn't fit it. So I put the ms-6309 back in, install all the plugs and didn't even think I'd come to a problem, until *dun dun dun* front panel connectors.

After hours and hours of finding the manual for the mobo, and not having any power on the PC itself because I couldn't figure out the combination they plug in, I finally did it correctly as to what it says in the manual. Everything connected, spiffy, case nice and closed (note: the 64mb is still in there, if that makes a difference), press the power button, and nothing. Absolutely zip, nothing even goes to load.

I've no idea what to do, help if you can. Any information you need I am willing to provide.

//Kiel

[Kiel]

Okay so here's how it's happened.

With an old 700mhz CPU, a MSI ms-6309 mobo, some 20gig HDD and about 380mb of ram, I cracked her open and installed a new video card. Oh and the "old" (old being the one before the one I'm installing) card was some 16mb piece of shit. Anyways, I install a 64mb Nvidia and hope for the best. It doesn't work (series of beeps from my motherboard), and I can't be bothered figuring out why, so I simply put in the 16mb, install the drivers from the 64mb's CD, and shut down.

I remove the 16mb once again, put in the 64mb, and it still doesn't work. So I put the 16mb in yet again, and everything's back to normal. I decide to remove the 64mb's drivers, though since they're the same manufacturer, I removed the 16mb's.

So of course the PC was sitting there with Quake and Counterstrike unplayable because of it's non-changeable 16 color 640 x 480 setting. I buy a 16mb card from eBay, and get fed up waiting.

I open her up, grab a motherboard I had lieing around, unplug EVERYTHING from the ms-6309, put in the found motherboard, and realise the case doesn't fit it. So I put the ms-6309 back in, install all the plugs and didn't even think I'd come to a problem, until *dun dun dun* front panel connectors.

After hours and hours of finding the manual for the mobo, and not having any power on the PC itself because I couldn't figure out the combination they plug in, I finally did it correctly as to what it says in the manual. Everything connected, spiffy, case nice and closed (note: the 64mb is still in there, if that makes a difference), press the power button, and nothing. Absolutely zip, nothing even goes to load.

I've no idea what to do, help if you can. Any information you need I am willing to provide.

//Kiel

Well, I've just had the fright of my life. I guess it was the power-supply after all, want to know why? Out of boredom I went to try work on it again, at the back of the power supply is a little red switch, I flick it, hear a small sound and then BZZZ a big bright blue spark flashes the whole room and gives me a sore hand.

Tell me, what's salvagable? I really only want the RAM as there's a brand new 256mb and a working 128mb in there, and, claiming it on warranty (;)), can I safely flick the red switch back to how it was, zip her up and send it back?

[belama]

This switch is the voltage setting ;). Did you turn it to 115V? In Canada or the US the power voltage is 120V, in Australia it is 240V. So I have to set it at the 115V setting, you have to keep it at 240V or whatever is the other option.

You MIGHT have toasted some of your hardware. If it is under warranty, I guess you could try to return it back...

[Kiel]

This switch is the voltage setting ;). Did you turn it to 115V? In Canada or the US the power voltage is 120V, in Australia it is 240V. So I have to set it at the 115V setting, you have to keep it at 240V or whatever is the other option.

You MIGHT have toasted some of your hardware. If it is under warranty, I guess you could try to return it back...

All of the parts except the 256mb RAM stick came with it anyways. I'll take it out and hope it works. Meanwhile, it's safe to flick the switch back?

[belama]

make sure youve unpluggled the power from the wall and should be fine. at what setting did you turn it to?

[Thong_Ispector]

I've got to ask...
Who is going to warrantee a 700mhz machine...
Where did you get it, how long ago?

When you flipped that switch you sent power directly to ground.

Most if not all of the components could be fine.

Were you installing an AGP video card...
AGP v1.0 is 3.3 volts and AGP v2.0 is 1.5 volts...
Please note I am not refering to 1x, 2x or 4x or 8x

Does the new card have one notch or two...
If it has one notch does the notch match the card you are replacing..

[Kiel]

I've got to ask... Who is going to warrantee a 700mhz machine... Where did you get it, how long ago?

When you flipped that switch you sent power directly to ground.

Most if not all of the components could be fine.

Were you installing an AGP video card... AGP v1.0 is 3.3 volts and AGP v2.0 is 1.5 volts... Please note I am not refering to 1x, 2x or 4x or 8x

Does the new card have one notch or two... If it has one notch does the notch match the card you are replacing..

I want to warranty the 700mhz computer because I've just got if off eBay, had a working LAN etc and one week later the power supply "blows up" ;)

Got it about a week ago.

If it makes any difference, I flipped the switch with it plugged in.

[belama]

I said to unplug it for precaution. If it didnt blow again it is alright then :).

So you say you bought it on Ebay without warranty and want to warranty it??? How would you do that? Usually peple sell things as is on Ebay.

[Kiel]

I said to unplug it for precaution. If it didnt blow again it is alright then :).

So you say you bought it on Ebay without warranty and want to warranty it??? How would you do that? Usually peple sell things as is on Ebay.

I never said it didn't have a warranty :lol:

[belama]

So you bought a 700mhz with a warranty on Ebay? Was it new and form who? heh heh, Im just curious. :D

[Catweazle]

Hiya Kiel,

when you finish getting that system going again, you should take up Case Modding as a hobby, and learn from this fella about the techniques you'll need to use:
http://www.motherboards.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=40798

at the back of the power supply is a little red switch, I flick it, hear a small sound and then BZZZ a big bright blue spark flashes the whole room and gives me a sore hand.

hahahahaaaaaa!!!!!!!!

oooops, sorry. I couldn't resist that!

* slinks off chuckling.......

[Thong_Ispector]

That is too funny....

[Kiel]

Hiya Kiel,

when you finish getting that system going again, you should take up Case Modding as a hobby, and learn from this fella about the techniques you'll need to use: http://www.motherboards.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=40798

hahahahaaaaaa!!!!!!!!

oooops, sorry. I couldn't resist that!

* slinks off chuckling.......

Ahaha, that's f*cking hilarious, and though you probably were choc-full of sarcasm, I've a couple of old cases lieing around :D

[Catweazle]

Glad you enjoyed it.

On a serious note, I hope you haven't damaged components other than the power unit, but it's quite possible that you have. If so, not much you can do about that except bang your head against the wall, I guess.

the 64Mb AGP card should'vebeen fine, as that mobo accomodates AGP 4X cards. Perhaps you simply knocked something loose when you changed it over, or failed to reset CMOS before trying to boot up again.

[Kiel]

Glad you enjoyed it.

On a serious note, I hope you haven't damaged components other than the power unit, but it's quite possible that you have. If so, not much you can do about that except bang your head against the wall, I guess.

the 64Mb AGP card should'vebeen fine, as that mobo accomodates AGP 4X cards. Perhaps you simply knocked something loose when you changed it over, or failed to reset CMOS before trying to boot up again.

Uh oh..C..MOS?

[Catweazle]

This article explains:
http://www.pcuser.com.au/pcuser/hs2.nsf/web/CE642AC8F2032DC7CA256F39001F4DCF

[suRoot]

u turned the psu to half voltage and DOUBLE voltage... ok someone is never ever getting hold or anywhere near my pc or where i work.. i hope u never touch peoples PC's again that's just restarded...

do you have any basic grasp of electronics? V=i/r.. thefore i-v/r meaning i=15/r = doubling load on resistance of psu...

[Kiel]

u turned the psu to half voltage and DOUBLE voltage... ok someone is never ever getting hold or anywhere near my pc or where i work.. i hope u never touch peoples PC's again that's just restarded...

do you have any basic grasp of electronics? V=i/r.. thefore i-v/r meaning i=15/r = doubling load on resistance of psu...

Shit mate I'm sorry I'm not up to your standards in computers, though I'm looking forward to learning, I'll never be as good as you are, oh great one.

Last I checked these were computer support forums.

Thanks for the link Catweazle.

[dcc]

Too much, lmao!

[dcc]

Hey Kiel...I have to admit that I had not read the second page before I made my fisrt reply, I missed suRoot's diatribe. I personally belive this forum is for helping others and learning, while we may occasionally make fun of one another, I don't condone the type of personal abuse you received from suRoot. Having said this, you have to admit, some of this was pretty funny. As for suRoot, he wrote V=i/r, it should read V=IxR.
Good luck Kiel, dcc