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Also, I guess I was trying to steer you away from the EVO-series. I like it, but I think it's a disaster waiting to happen. Why? I'm fundamentally opposed to machines that are lightweight with a lot of moving parts (swappable this and thats). The EVO's predecessor - the Presario 1700 series - have been pretty much a disaster after the 1st year. The casing on these machines are simply too lightweight and not strong enough to hold the computer together over time. Hence, the hinges will break, the LCD plastics will also break around the hinges, the lower portion of the unit will also, guess what?, break around the hinges, and the entire unit flexes and grunts each time you open and close the screen lid. The battery, the empty insert, DVD module, FDD module... they all carry different weight and the laptop will bent and torque differently depending upon which is inserted. Enuf said...

If you wanna look at a great, used machine or a poorly-built one, look no further than eBay: a great machine, when used, will be sold in one piece; a poorly-built one gets sold for parts. I had another post asking about Toshiba 2805 hard drive upgrades - you can't find these Toshiba 2805s being broken up for sale on eBay - no keyboards, no DVD drives, no case parts... nothing! And that's after the machines' been on the market for 2-3 years. That's the sign of a great laptop. I'm not advocating you getting one, of course, but ... if you can liberate yourself from the EVO and look at other choices, then my suggestion would be to look for used laptops that are sold as laptops, not in bits and pieces.

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Thanks again Bob.
I understand what you say..I probably buy another laptop than EVO if I have to buy for myself..but I have already sold my laptop(screen problem) on Indian auction site & buyer wants the same,so I have to get him one same model.Also getting handsome return from it so I can utilised it in repairing my problem laptop.
I have already find one vendor on ebay to whom I have chatted last night..He also sent me recent pic of his EVO with & without power on laptop.I asked him to reduce 50$ & he agreed by selling direct to me than putting on ebay again.I also get his pasport copy with his photo,address & cell no...I agreed to send money via wire transfer...Please help me if I am doing right thing or not..Do I need to take some more proof from him while dealing with him.

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Indianr
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So you're doing the private-sale route, which, according to just about everybody, is considered a high risk maneuver. I however, have had the pleasure (and good fortune) of going thru several private transactions outside of eBay and they turned out to be incredibly satisfactory to me, so ... good luck to you.



Thanks again Bob.
I understand what you say..I probably buy another laptop than EVO if I have to buy for myself..but I have already sold my laptop(screen problem) on Indian auction site & buyer wants the same,so I have to get him one same model.Also getting handsome return from it so I can utilised it in repairing my problem laptop.
I have already find one vendor on ebay to whom I have chatted last night..He also sent me recent pic of his EVO with & without power on laptop.I asked him to reduce 50$ & he agreed by selling direct to me than putting on ebay again.I also get his pasport copy with his photo,address & cell no...I agreed to send money via wire transfer...Please help me if I am doing right thing or not..Do I need to take some more proof from him while dealing with him.


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bobchang
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Thanks for all your needful help....I appreciate your work at daniweb.You seems to be an interesting person,I would like to chat with you sometime on yahoo or msn if you dont mind for it.

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Indianr
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My id on yahoo & msn is Mr_Indiar.Hope to get one from you..Tks

Indianr
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Dear Bob,

I am getting the working motherboard of Evo N160 at 75$.So if you guess for sure that its motherboard only that causing the lineing problem.please guide so can I replace the whole motherboard to make my damn laptop working?

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Indianr
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Waiting for your reply Bob.

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Indianr
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Oh... Don't have a yahoo or msn id. Now as to your other question regarding buying a working motherboard, you're asking me for an assessment that's based on the results of three pretty darn incompetent technicians with whom you've consulted and paid. If indeed they've tested the screen and the cable and the inverter (all huge if's), then there's nothing left but the motherboard (the inverter is a non-event).

Here's a re-cap:

(1) the CPQ center you called did nothing but speculate on which part had gone bad and quoted you an LCD - they're fired!
(2) the local tech who said it was the cable but couldn't get one... If he couldn't get a good cable, how'd he know yours was bad - he's fired, too!
(3) the guy who "cleaned" your inverter.... probably lied thru his teeth since if anything, the inverter was the only part that's known to be 100% good - he's fired on the spot! I'll hire him just to fire him.
(4) the 3rd tech who replaced your cable then claimed the LCD was bad and didn't even assemble the screen back properly (since you could tell that it's been opened) - he's probably the worst of 'em all. I mean, how'd he know the screen was bad if he couldn't get one? Fired, fired, fired!

Anywho...I'm just hoping that none of the above "techs" have ripped you off - I know you've already paid them for their incompetence - but I'm seriously hoping that your EVO hasn't been "butchered" - there's the original failure, plus all the potential additional failures from being worked on by these ... auto mechanics.

But ... if you had to take these auto mechanics' words for granted, then buying a systemboard is the only remaining thing to do... :cheesy:

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Hmmm....I dont think if any of this tech has made any minor or major damage to my laptop(dont have that much guts).As the line comming before & after I handed laptop from them is same,nothing change.

....If I "take it" that the all tech are wrong since no one has get my laptop working & If I go with the opinion of compaq service center tech, I need to replace the screen...right?..Now if I have to made my mind to change the screen only, than I knew one good tech who is importing new screen & parts of laptop(Also giving 1 year warrany on screen).I told him about my problem(but not told anything what other tech said).His word lay with the compaq service centre man(screen fault)....He will replace the screen & if screen works fine he will do checking to other components...What do you think,changing screen first is an easy & appropiate task to find the right fault?..
Expecting needful help.
Tks

Indianr
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Duh.... You seem to have forgotten about the ants. Now I didn't believe for one nanosecond that the spill got onto the inverter (it's a little piece of power board that would've shorted and left you with a dark screen and it would've spilled onto the LCD, too), so my thinking is that the spill residuals are still on the motherboard. So that's an issue that's begging for attention before you go any further.

That's the primary reason why I think these guys are auto mechanics. It only takes less than 20 minutes to disassemble the entire system to see what the hell had attracted the ants, and thus far no one has done it.

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Hey guys,
I too am having problems with text lines or any dark images on my screen being streaked across the display as a gray shadow. I had an older 17" CRT model through Gateway that is about 5 years old and just recently purchased a 17" TFT LCD monitor in hopes of alleviating this problem. Unfortunately, it didn't work. I've heard rumors about magnetic fields (my speakers are about 1 foot above my monitor) or possibly a video/graphics card problem. I tried both monitors on my friend's computer and both worked fine without streaks. Could the video card be the problem or something else? Thanks.

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I have a similar question to all of these, but my lcd panel only experiences problems when first turned on. It will come on, and the entire screen is gray. Then, slowly, horizontal line by horizontal line, the display will become visible, as the lines seem to flash between colors, finally staying at the appropriate colors for the display. After about 5 minutes, all of the horizontal lines will have turned to the actual picture colors, and my computer is fully usable, and the problem does not recur again until the computer and monitor are turned off. I have even left the monitor power on with no computer input to see if it would happen, and when the computer was turned on, it happened again. To test the reverse, I have turned the monitor on without a computer connection, and it still happened. The video card is brand new andd the problem occurred with the old card as well as this new one. Do LCD's have a warm up period, and if so, why do my horizontal lines flicker like that every time I turn it on. Thanks for the help!

tbower
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Once one of those flexible printed cables comes off, getting it back on is harder than the labors of Hercules.

Replacing the monitor is cheaper.

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... Here's what I have suggested in the past, and it reportedly has helped in more than one case: monitor repairman that I am (or once was), it sounds like bad contacts between the driver electronics and the display itself. One relatively easy test for this problem is as follows: With the unit on, gently grasp the left and right edges of the display. Gently twist the display (no more than a few ounces of pressure) as though you are wringing out a towel. See if the display flashes, changes, etc. This may even fix the problem by "wiping" the contacts of dirt or oxidation.

I have a Gateway Profile 3 (15in LCD all-in-1 PC), and there was a yellow vertical line on it. I found your discussion here and thought I would try out your advice. Since I couldn't twist the display, I pressed firmly on different parts of the LCD, being careful not to damage it. After a while a magenta vertical line appeard. I was able to keep pressing and it went away, so I figured you were correct, that some contacts were bad in the dispaly. I took everything apart, and removed the frame from around the LCD. I pressed on the contacts at the top of the display, reconnected the LCD, and the yellow vertical line was gone! :cheesy: I re-attached the frame, put the PC back together, and the LCD has been working fine ever since. So thanks for your help TallCool1!

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Same problem here. I have BENQ 32" LCD TV that I use for my computer. I got 2 like dirty vertical lines and splashes around the right side of the screen. Ill just call teh shop and see if they are up for a replacement for a 1800$ monitor...

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