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external ram?

Excuse me, but is it possible to make an external ram supply? Just out of curiosity.

If this is possible, then would it also be possible to use an external ram source that connected by USB? yes, I realize this would require programming a chip to change the data type to/from USB.

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What would be the purpose of that? USB is so slow and defeats the entire purpose of RAM.

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well, is there an other medium that could be used, other than usb? Would it be possible to modify a motherboard to have an external RAM storage unit?

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There is no sense in trying. External storage on RAM base exists for decades - it's called solid-state-disc and besides special server applications, this technology is now obsolete. Modern solid state FlashROM devices (your USB stick) can be seen as sort of RAM based storage, too.
I understood that you wanted to have mass storage that has the speed of RAM (the only meaningful purpose of external RAM), but this will always be limited by the RAM prizes and the needed high speed interface that can compete with memory placed next to the controller. Or you think of a completely different type of computer, where work memory and mass storage would be the same. Since this would only speed up loading times beyond a reasonable amount, there is not much sense in such a concept. Fire up a RAID 0 with some affordable high end harddisks and load the monstergame of your choice - I guess you won't see much need for something ten times faster but 1000 times more pricy, too.

But I've got an idea: Just remove your case and place the mainboard and all the stuff on your desktop. This way, everything becomes external...:mrgreen: (I know some guys who actually run their rigs this way)

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There is no sense in trying. External storage on RAM base exists for decades - it's called solid-state-disc and besides special server applications, this technology is now obsolete. Modern solid state FlashROM devices (your USB stick) can be seen as sort of RAM based storage, too. I understood that you wanted to have mass storage that has the speed of RAM (the only meaningful purpose of external RAM), but this will always be limited by the RAM prizes and the needed high speed interface that can compete with memory placed next to the controller. Or you think of a completely different type of computer, where work memory and mass storage would be the same. Since this would only speed up loading times beyond a reasonable amount, there is not much sense in such a concept. Fire up a RAID 0 with some affordable high end harddisks and load the monstergame of your choice - I guess you won't see much need for something ten times faster but 1000 times more pricy, too.

But I've got an idea: Just remove your case and place the mainboard and all the stuff on your desktop. This way, everything becomes external...:mrgreen: (I know some guys who actually run their rigs this way)

Am I to understand that the feature of xternal RAM provided by Vista is a waste of time? My whole query was based on the assumption that what was provided in Vista was desirable and therefore wanted to know if it would work in XP.

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I understand your curiosity. I wish there was an external RAM. I have a laptop that the RAM is not accessible. I would literally have to take off keyboard and flip over the motherboard. So it would be nice an easy just to plug into the side :)

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there is a feature in vista that will use a usb jump drive as a sort of ram but this is very slow. maybe a better way would to use an esata connection to some flash based memory. just a thought

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there is a feature in vista that will use a usb jump drive as a sort of ram but this is very slow. maybe a better way would to use an esata connection to some flash based memory. just a thought


thumb drive is flash based memory is it not ,for best usb to use make sure its marked Redyboost compatible.as most aren't

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I understand your curiosity. I wish there was an external RAM. I have a laptop that the RAM is not accessible. I would literally have to take off keyboard and flip over the motherboard. So it would be nice an easy just to plug into the side :)


what model laptop. make a model # post it

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The point is to add RAM when you've run out of slots.

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Hmmm, I'm not sure about external ram, but ready-boost is similar if you have vista. thinking about it there's a possibility you could just move the page file in xp to a flash drive essentially creating a ready-boost drive in xp. just don't remove the flash drive.

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wats the use of an external ram when double slots are provided to ur motherboard better move to 4 or 8 gb rams instead of ext rams

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external RAM.. I thought of that for long too.. i wanted to have one but seems our modern world doesn't have it yet.. i have read one comment that says "usb is so slow", something like that and i do agree, the speed of usb is just 2.0, how can a ram possibly transfer data at that speed when your main purpose of having external ram is to power/speed up your laptop.. however, if they have made external HDD into existence and so with external graphics cards, why cant they make it with external RAM? i know someday that will come into existence..

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I agree, 6 GB would be good enough. But why post in such an old thread:)

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Hi , you can implement via external sata port and attaching this device

http://www.hyperossystems.co.uk/07042003/products.htm

also consult:

http://youtu.be/W7_uMrdNizs

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why reply ? because is an interesting subject

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why reply ? because is an interesting subject


nice link ,good read ,it is a interesting subject,discussion/opinion type threads have no timeline ,me thinks , thanks for the reply

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