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Re: Computer freezes badly while gaming, help plz!

FSAA as Full Screen Antialiasing, not Anisotropic filtering.

Haven't run FC in a long time, but I think that there is no FSAA in FC. There is one in N4S most wanted. Made my screen blurry and my eyes hurt.
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FSAA as Full Screen Antialiasing, not Anisotropic filtering.
I thought you made a typo because you mentioned AA and FSAA in that context.
FSAA is no function of the game engine - the ingame setting just tells the driver it's own idea of which type of AA is applied (and FC uses AA, too of course). If you turn AA off in the game, it takes the setting set in the driver control (which is recommended). But anyway - I can imagine now what happened:
I forgot that there are some AA types on nVidia cards that are blurry as hell indeed, namely the 2xQ and 8xS settings. Even letters look like "1 gal whiskey" then. I guess setting AA in NFSMW turned one of these on. That's why it's better to control that with the driver, not with the ingame menu - you never know what kind of AA it turns on.
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Yup, (AA settings in control panel = 0ff - 2x - 2xQ - 4x - 8xS)

It seems to me that AA is not hardware-driven function, or my video drivers (latest) have HUGE bug.


Anyway, I think that we are miles off the topic here.
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It seems to me that AA is not hardware-driven function, or my video drivers (latest) have HUGE bug.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FSAA (Bottom of the page) But I guess it's not all hardcoded and the driver contains the algorhythm for that part of hardware to be computed..(?)

Seems that mileage may vary a lot with nVidia's drivers if you have bad luck and IIRC you had your own special experience with their support already - me too. :cheesy:
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Anyway, I think that we are miles off the topic here.
Sure, but we're just passing time until the threadstarter returns.
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Ahh.... NVIDIA customer (so-called) support....

I'm still waiting for them to reply me on f6 drivers. $%#@*
2 weeks and counting.

I wonder if they would reply me on this "AA=major slowdown" thing.
Probably would instruct me to install the drivers I already have installed. Or say something like "we don't build graphic cards".
Right, they just build GPUs and make drivers for them. Nothing to do with video cards at all.
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Probably would instruct me to install the drivers I already have installed.
That will most likely be happening. Sorry, can't resist to c+p that story here:

The problem I describe below appears on NV-based cards of numerous manufacturers and was already adressed by nVidia (new BIOS) and one manufacturer (Club3D) already offered 3 different ways to solve it at the time I contacted "Customer Care". It was never related to the driver and many GF7 (at least, prob. exists on GF6, too) users with sufficient PSUs bought new ones for no reason due to the false advice they found in forums and the "no-advice" by nVidia. Only a minority really had weak PSUs. The nV "Customer Care" was more clueless than I could stand. And it seems they never read mails:

I:
I have a problem with the 'nVidia Sentinel' reporting insufficient power after first (cold) boot on my new 7600GS (AGP). Like most of the other people with a 'sentinel' problem, I'm sure to use a quality PSU (Coba) with sufficient amperage (25A) on the +12V rails and have of course a power connector attached to the card. The sentinel pops up after a cold boot only, after a reboot everything is fine. I updated to the latest beta drivers (92.91) to see if the problem has been addressed, but no success. Looks like the card/driver checks a parameter too early during startup, not leaving enough time for the PSU to power up or something.
[...]

Kind regards,


NV: Please plug a power connector into your card

I: I did, as mentioned in the mail

NV: Please install the 91.47 driver

I: 91.47 came with the card, have tried NGO 91.47 and now use 92.91 beta. Haven't tried a Forceware 8 driver, since the 7600GS AGP isn't supported by them AFAIK.

NV: Please install 84.21

I: Driver didn't find nVidia hardware, since it can't know that card yet (Rem.: At least I knew that 91.47 was the first driver to support 7600GS AGP)

NV: Please install 91.33 :rolleyes:

I did. At this time I stumbled over the real cause for this problem and asked them to close the support ticket. I was sick of installing drivers. Don't expect support from nVidia. To be honest, I believe "Customer Care" is a bot, parsing mail titles for key words and replying accordingly. Worst artificial non-intelligence ever. :mrgreen:
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Atleast, he got response.
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Yes, but in the way you get response from a distant wall :mrgreen:
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Once, I got response: "please install our lates driver 91.47" and they gave me link to 91.33 beta.
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Hey Chaky! Congrats! Being a shark now. Or Charky :cheesy:
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