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Re: HP Pavilion does not Boot AT ALL!!

Click to Expand / Collapse  Quote originally posted by Master_Vos ...
BIOS update doesn't always mean they have to replace the chip ( unless it's a bad manufactured chip that is). Maybe HP has released a new version of the BIOS + a tool to flash it. Instructions should be on their site. Flashing the BIOS could solve the problem.

And i thought we were talking about an old computer that started to get issues?
Well the laptop is about 10-11 months old. It is AMD Turion Dual Core x64, 1.8 Ghz, 2 Gig of RAM 256 Nvidia card. So I would say it is still new. It was taken good care of, never dropped or anything.

I understand that one can flash the BIOS, and I would gladly do that, but unfortunately nothing comes on the screen, just LEDs flash as it restarts. I do not know HOW can a BIOS chip go faulty I just have no clue what else could that be. Thank you for advice though.
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Re: HP Pavilion does not Boot AT ALL!!

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I would not mess up with the hardware too much if i were you... Have you tried already to disable the graphics card in the BIOS ? Maybe when its turned off you can boot normally.
I cant get into BIOS.
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Re: HP Pavilion does not Boot AT ALL!!

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BIOS update doesn't always mean they have to replace the chip ( unless it's a bad manufactured chip that is). Maybe HP has released a new version of the BIOS + a tool to flash it. Instructions should be on their site. Flashing the BIOS could solve the problem.

And i thought we were talking about an old computer that started to get issues?
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I have a similar issue. When starting up my laptop, the power lights come on and the hard drive light flickers three or four times and then nothing. When I put a cd in, the cdwill spin a couple of timesand the hard drive light will fliccker again three or four times and nothing. Something that happens that typically doesn't happen before entering teh operating system is that I have to hold the power button down about fiveseconds for it to turn off. Befroe when it ran fine, I could just hit the button before getting to the operating system. I have a Compaq Presario R3000 Series latop.

Steps that I have taken:

Removed and reinserted the hard drive
Removed and swapped slot 1 and slot 2 RAM
Tried to start up with only AC
Removed the AC and Battery and held down the power button for a hard reset
Started up without a hard drive (thelast time I accidentally did that, I at least got a "Can not find book disk" error.

I was told that it might be the BGA RAM on the video card, but after that I was told that the graphics card shares the computer RAM butupon loking at the specs it does appear that the graphics has its own RAM. Iam still at a loss for what and where the BGA RAM is. Also, in looking at my chip and heat sink, when I took the heat sink off to reseat the cpu, I noticed that the contact paste was solid and brittle. Is changing the graphics out hard to do? Or should I replace the chip? It did run a bit without a fan a few months agofor a couple of weeks. Any input isgreatly appreciated
If it is a problem with a graphics card, will it not give some beeps?
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Re: HP Pavilion does not Boot AT ALL!!

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I would not mess up with the hardware too much if i were you... Have you tried already to disable the graphics card in the BIOS ? Maybe when its turned off you can boot normally.
Nothing ever shows up on my screen, and when I hit F12 as to when I would think that the computer would ask, nothing happens as well.
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Re: HP Pavilion does not Boot AT ALL!!

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If it is a problem with a graphics card, will it not give some beeps?
I don't know if it would beep. I think that I am just going to spend $50 bucks on a replacement cpu chip and if that doesn't do it, well I don't know because the next thing to do is to purchase a mobo for around $300 which in that case I would just buy a new latop instead. :-|
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Re: HP Pavilion does not Boot AT ALL!!

It depends on what computer you have. Some do not create beep code sounds and others do not have an internal speaker.

The bios will post on the screen if the cycle is complete.

To: reen.blom

Since your computer does not have onboard video, why don't you try to push the video board back in place. Try it first.

To: jergrif73

Since your computer has provided with an onboard video. Its memory shared with the system memory. No conflict with the video memory and it seldom failed.


Okay, guys, if you feel the problem is in your system board. Try these solutions first before replacing your system board/motherboard.

1. Plug your AC power adapter directly to the wall outlet. Don't use automatic voltage regulator or whatever alternative power supply source. Check also the output voltage of the automatic voltage regulator (if any). Use multimeter.

2. Check the output voltage of the AC power adapter. Use multimeter.

3. Maybe your power socket or jacket is loose on the motherboard/system board. Try to locate it, just wiggle each pin terminal (cold soldered), then solder it.

4. The battery cannot receive anymore charging from the power supply or the battery itself is almost dying.

But anyway, since, I think overheating is not an issue here. Try also to clean the cpu fan.
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Re: HP Pavilion does not Boot AT ALL!!

Thank you Fren!

You just confirm my suspicions that I will have to replace the motherboard, and the cheapest I found so far is aboput 200 British Pounds. OUCH.

The CPU fan is immaculate condition. Would the Lights still go on (It has a multimedia button bar with LEDs) and the rest would power up if there was something wrong with adapter? Will check that out though.

Thank you

PS Graphics card on that laptop is soldered on the board and its RAM as well. Suppose this is what makes that board so expensive.
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Re: HP Pavilion does not Boot AT ALL!!

10-11 months old... Can't you still use waranty or something?
And after reading all these replies i think both Fren and your suspicions are right.... Unfortunately you'll have to pay quite a lot... However try Fren's suggestions first mate =)
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Re: HP Pavilion does not Boot AT ALL!!

To: jergrif73 & reen.blom

There is nothing to lose if you will try my above advise.
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Re: HP Pavilion does not Boot AT ALL!!

Click to Expand / Collapse  Quote originally posted by fren ...
It depends on what computer you have. Some do not create beep code sounds and others do not have an internal speaker.

The bios will post on the screen if the cycle is complete.

To: reen.blom

Since your computer does not have onboard video, why don't you try to push the video board back in place. Try it first.

To: jergrif73

Since your computer has provided with an onboard video. Its memory shared with the system memory. No conflict with the video memory and it seldom failed.


Okay, guys, if you feel the problem is in your system board. Try these solutions first before replacing your system board/motherboard.

1. Plug your AC power adapter directly to the wall outlet. Don't use automatic voltage regulator or whatever alternative power supply source. Check also the output voltage of the automatic voltage regulator (if any). Use multimeter.

2. Check the output voltage of the AC power adapter. Use multimeter.

3. Maybe your power socket or jacket is loose on the motherboard/system board. Try to locate it, just wiggle each pin terminal (cold soldered), then solder it.

4. The battery cannot receive anymore charging from the power supply or the battery itself is almost dying.

But anyway, since, I think overheating is not an issue here. Try also to clean the cpu fan.
I have tried the above measures and the power seems to be constant. I checked the voltage output and also. I can leave the latop on with the AC plugged in and after a bit plug it in, and the charging light will light up until the battery is charged once again.

The power jacket is nice and tight to the board, which I wouldn't think that it was loose as the laptop seems to be fine inthe power aspect. Could the cpu chip not being set correctly or being burned up or not having contact paste (enough to make full contact with the heat sink) prevent a boot up?

Also, does the following mean that the graphics card does NOT share the computers RAM but rather has its own RAM that could be bad:

Video Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 4 420 Go
Video Memory 32MB DDR (dedicated)
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