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Is Redirect Bad for Business?

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Hello,

Some time ago I bought space at Homestead to build a business website, and located my business domain name there. I've ended up creating my business elsewhere on the Web. I've established a redirect link from an empty index page at Homestead to my new website. I have nothing else at Homestead.

I asked Homestead if I needed to add some text description to their site so that the search engines would have something to display, you know, a blurb. Homestead replied that it didn't know how different search engines treated a redirect.

Does anyone know the answer to this question? Will a redirect link cause trouble and confusion in listing my domain name with different types of search engines (spiders and human) and web directories? I'm trying to save time by using the redirect instead of transfering the domain name to my business site (two weeks for a simple tranfer) added on to the additional weeks it will take the search engines to pick me up.

Will I end up costing myself time and frustration by listing my domain name as a redirect? My actual URL is a Cafepress.com extention. There are thousands of Cafepress businesses.

Thanks.
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Re: Is Redirect Bad for Business?

Is it a server-side redirect (i.e. Apache redirection or a PHP redirection) or a client-side redirect such as JavaScript or a meta refresh tag?
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It is not good for search engines. A 301 redirect is the lesser of all evils, but you can't do that on homestead. You are best off putting a page up that informs the users you moved and has a link to your new site.
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Quote originally posted by cscgal ...
Is it a server-side redirect (i.e. Apache redirection or a PHP redirection) or a client-side redirect such as JavaScript or a meta refresh tag?
It's a code on an otherwise blank index page at Homestead that links directly to the Cafepress site. At this time, the only search engine I've tried that has this link is Google. On cable it goes real quick, you don't even see any reroute text.
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Quote originally posted by Arizona Web ...
It is not good for search engines. A 301 redirect is the lesser of all evils, but you can't do that on homestead. You are best off putting a page up that informs the users you moved and has a link to your new site.
Thanks for your post. Would I be better off simply transfering the domain name to Cafepress and taking care of the Homestead domain name later?
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Quote originally posted by hudson ...
Thanks for your post. Would I be better off simply transfering the domain name to Cafepress and taking care of the Homestead domain name later?
You would certainly be best getting the domian pointed to where it is hosted.
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I recommend going to www.godaddy.com and open a account then transfer it there, and use their domain name "masking" Keywords and Title and description areas in the forwarding area, like I do some of mine. You will never regret going to godaddy.com I can say with confidence. Why? I have over 300 names there. Now some forums are really sticklers on giving examples so I will be real careful here, but email me or PM me and we can start a dialog. I can definitely save you a lot of headaches and possible future problems. I have made a ton of errors is why I know. I had to scroll up to see where I was. They won't care because I have Daniweb.com banners all over my pages. I was at another place the other night and I had not been there in a long while and as soon as I posted I got Flamed bad. Why? I was tired and it was late, some forums don't like BOLD letters all the time and they let me know about it. Plus I replied to a thread in a wrong way. Wrong answer I guess. Oh well, win some and lose some. Example: Masked one = www.sturgisbuckles.com unmasked one: www.sturgisbikerally.info The REAL url? www.webmakrexpress.com/sturgisbuckles.html So it all depends on what you are trying to accomplish. I am their affiliate and one way the customer can not go anywhere else but, go on to their shopping cart. I hope this helps some. www.oohdale.com Try that one too. btw: I had three mis-spelled words. iespell in my browser did the job.
Last edited by oohdale; Jul 5th, 2004 at 8:48 pm. Reason: Spelling again. I didn't use www.iespell.com
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The point is with your sturgis buckles site that when google visits your homepage they get:

<html>
<head>
<title>Sturgis Rally Buckles</title>
<META name="description" content="22 Years of Commemorative Sturgis Rally Buckles">
<META name="keywords" content="22 Years of Commemorative Sturgis Rally Buckles,Commemorative,T-Shirts, Shirts, Harley-Davidson Shirts, VIDEOS,GIFTS,2004,2003,1982,1984,Special Prices,">
</head>
<frameset rows="100%,*" border="0">
<frame src="http://webmakrexpress.com/sturgisbuckles.html" frameborder="0">
<frame frameborder="0" noresize>
</frameset>
</html>

Which results in the following display in google:
http://www.google.com/search?q=http%...utf-8&oe=utf-8

And if we search for the two words of your domain seperately you're at the bottom of page 3:
http://www.google.com/search?q=sturg...&start=20&sa=N

If the domain was directly attached to the domain rather than using a frames redirect it would give google more content to index on the primary and presumably most important page of your site. Therefore I'd agree with Arizona Web.

That's my 2p of opinion.
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BUT, I saw three of my pages there not just 1. www.oohdale.com and the www.webmakrexpress.com one too. What you don't understand yet is that is a one way in and 2 ways out of that redirect so I get my 20% commision on all sales as an affiliate. Savvy? I have about 10 others going there too. www.sturgisrallycams.info and www.esturgis.com to just list a few.
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