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Hey everyone, I need some real help optomizing my site. Its been crawled sevleral times since openening around may 3rd and i still have a zero page rank. Is there something im doing wrong that is causing this? ive been submitting to directories, following a bunch of guides, added an RSS feed, added a guide (currently writing another).

Can anyone make any sugestions?

my site http://www.amokcomputers.com
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PageRank is assigned immediately. You just can't see it. You'll have to wait until at least the next public PageRank update and maybe even to the one after that before you can see your pages' PageRank.

SEO has nothing to do with PageRank. PageRank is a mathematical formula that quantifies link popularity. It does not indicate whether a site is optimized. It does not indicate whether a site is any good.

Submitting to directories isn't going to help your rank much unless you are targeting minor keywords so don't expect that to do a lot for you. You should still do it for a new site to get it started, though, as you need to start somewhere.

RSS feeds don't really affect SEO. But still use them as you visitors may like them and happy visitors are a good thing.

Keep adding fresh content and promoting your site. Patience is key as nothing happens quickly with SEO.
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If page rank is not effected by link submitions and SEO then what does? it was my understanding from other sites that the more back links you have, either from directories or other sources that most commonly effect PR.

How often is PR updated? month? year?

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page rank uptaded every 90 or 100 days and you can take an idea here: http://www.seocompany.ca/pagerank/pa...date-list.html
page rank is one of more than 100 factors. page rank will help you to rank well.
there is a diffrence between the backlinks and page rank which a math formula get more links from different page rank.
to rank well you need backlinks from related web sites with anchor text rich keywords and pay attention for others factors.
you can search "searchenginejournal" to get an idea about all seo factors
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Click to Expand / Collapse  Quote originally posted by zabador ...
If page rank is not effected by link submitions and SEO then what does? it was my understanding from other sites that the more back links you have, either from directories or other sources that most commonly effect PR.

How often is PR updated? month? year?

Thanks for all the help
PageRank is affected by links both incoming and outgoing of which directory submissions can help. But it is not based on quantity. It's based on quality. You can have thousands of links and still be a PR1. Weak links from sites like directories will give you a tiny bit of PR but do absolutely nothing for your rankings.

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page rank uptaded every 90 or 100 days
Public PageRank, which is what you see in your toolbar, is updated every three months or so and the number you see in that toolbar is rounded and is at least that old and most likely much older then that. Internal PageRank, which is what is used in the SERPs, is updated daily.
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ok so basicly, i should stop trying to put links everywhere and focus on locations which are relelvent. Perhaps the manufactuers that i sell for would be willing to put something up.

Do outgoing links help me at all? also where do meta tags fit into all this? I know they dont contribute to PR or anything like that but they have to have some purpose right? are there other meta tags or other header information that should be placed besideds keywork and title?
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Do outgoing links help me at all?
No.

Click to Expand / Collapse  Quote originally posted by zabador ...
also where do meta tags fit into all this? I know they dont contribute to PR or anything like that but they have to have some purpose right?
Meta tags do not affect SEO.

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are there other meta tags or other header information that should be placed besideds keywork and title?
The title tag is not a meta tag. And the only tags that you should use are the description, keyword, and robots tag but only use the robots tag if you wish to block content from being indexed. Otherwise it serves no purpose.
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"description" meta tag can help to increase your ranking and not page rank.
- outgoing links will help in the case that you point your outgoing to relevant web sites and avoid dead links.
you can used outgoing links to encourage others people to point a backlinks to your web sites.(this practise is more important for blog than web sites).
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SEO has nothing to do with PageRank. PageRank is a mathematical formula that quantifies link popularity. It does not indicate whether a site is optimized. It does not indicate whether a site is any good.

Google uses many factors in ranking. Of these, the PageRank algorithm might be the best known. PageRank evaluates two things: how many links there are to a web page from other pages, and the quality of the linking sites. With PageRank, five or six high-quality links from websites such as www.cnn.com and www.nytimes.com would be valued much more highly than twice as many links from less reputable or established sites....

PR is one factor of Google but it based on quality links only....
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"description" meta tag can help to increase your ranking and not page rank.
Not true. Meta tags do not help your rankings in any way. The meta description tag may be shown in the SERPs but it is not used to rank that page.

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- outgoing links will help in the case that you point your outgoing to relevant web sites and avoid dead links.
It won't help your rankings but linking to a good website will make your visitors happy.

Click to Expand / Collapse  Quote originally posted by affiliate007 ...
you can used outgoing links to encourage others people to point a backlinks to your web sites.(this practise is more important for blog than web sites).
Reciprocal links have little to no value in SEO. They are devalued because of they are seen as a manipulation of the SERPs. One way links are much more valuable. Plus if the site you link to is in a link farm and they link back you may be considered part of that link farm which is obviously a bad thing.
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