Starting a Link Directory

[KeyDegree]

I read in adifferent post about buy and selling google pr, where someone said that they wanted to build a directory to get their site back upto a higher PR.

Is this true, by addding a link directory you cna increase your google pr?

We do a lot of link exchanges and it doesnt not seem to be working, would it be better to build a directory to place the links in rather then placing the links directly on the site itself?

Thoughts.............?

[stymiee]

That's not true. Wherever you read that is probably a bad place to get SEO advice.

Your goal is to get links IN tp your site. Not to link to other sites. And the reason why link exchanges aren't working is because they have no positive effect on SEO and is more likely to hurt you then help you. Stop seeking link exchanges and start seeking one way inbound links.

[Hilton paris]

Yeah i am agree with your statemnet.
Link exchange is not so important.If your site has god page rank,then another party is interested in exchanging link.

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[stymiee]

But your goal is not to exchange links. It is to get one way links to your site.

[KeyDegree]

I actually read it in a different post here, maybe I misunderstood what they were saying. Getting inbound links seems to be an impossilble task without spending all kinds of money.

I will see if I can get it going! Thanks as always

[neuronimbus]

If you are going to exchange links, just follow two things -
1. it should be relevant.
2. it would be a quality website.

Then, LE will work for you.

[WebDave]

If you are going to exchange links, just follow two things - 1. it should be relevant. 2. it would be a quality website.

I second you on this. Quality and relevancy are key factors for SEO stratergies.

[erothchild]

A directory ISa good idea for SEO on your site.

I will show you a way to get ONE way links to your site by aiming your reciprical links to your home page or internal page (more important than ever to get internal pages)

You can do it like this:

Create 2 folders to the root of the website you can call them GO and Directory.

Install your new directory into the directory folder.

Edit the Meta Refresh in the "Go" "index.html" to point to the http://www.yoursite.com/Directory

Add Disallow: /go/ to your robots.txt file

Create the link for visitors that will take them to the redirect.

You can use something like this: ADD URL

Since the redirect is a standard meta refresh, and is disallowed from robots,
it is not spidered, or followed, so this is a perfectly legal way to make sure
the spiders never see the destination page!
(in fact, this exact method was endorsed by a Google Engineer in Webmaster World)

if you are honest and want to get your linkers (and yourself) some value, you will submit your new directory to the search engines and some directories, eventually it will start getting its OWN page rank and your site will be a lot more valuable as an asset to your users and the search engines.

Eric Rothchild

[stymiee]

What you are talking about is fine with search engines but fraudulent to website owners. Basically you are tricking them into thinking they are getting a reciprocal link that will help their rankings but in reality they are getting nothing. How would you feel if you were on the receiving end of such a trick?

[erothchild]

if you will read my post before insulting my advice - I said, if you submit the directory gets its own PR, in a lot of cases the direcory actually gets better ranking than the site itself.

[stymiee]

if you will read my post before insulting my advice - I said, if you submit the directory gets its own PR, in a lot of cases the direcory actually gets better ranking than the site itself.

That has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

In your post you outline how to block the links back to reciprocal link partners so they have no SEO value. That's the fraud I am talking about. You can't hide it as it is there in your post for anyone to read.

[erothchild]

It will not be fraud if the directory is looked at by the search engines as a separate site, the only thing my redirect does is stop the spider from going from the main site to the directory, it does not stop the spider from going to the directory which is why I posted this paragraph:

<---my post-->
"if you are honest and want to get your linkers (and yourself) some value, you will submit your new directory to the search engines and some directories, eventually it will start getting its OWN page rank and your site will be a lot more valuable as an asset to your users and the search engines."
<---my post-->"

You see? Its not fraud, it can actually be a better situation for both the web owner and the person you are linking to as long as 1. the directory is relevant and 2. you submit the directory url to the engines so that it can start getting spidered and gain its own pagerank.

I can see your calling me a fraud if I had advised a no follow on the directory or scripted no follows within the sites program but for a sub directory that gets spidered regularly and has pagerank?

I feel that you are either not giving my advice enough consideration or you did not understand that what I was doing is giving advice to create a high pagerank directory to list the sites that link to the home page, which allows BOTH parties to gain a ONE WAY link back and forth in the spiders eyes which goes opposite of your last post:

<---your last post-->
"In your post you outline how to block the links back to reciprocal link partners so they have no SEO value."
<---your last post-->

Get it?

[stymiee]

It's fraud to the sites you link to. Not the search engines. You are deceiving people into thinking they are getting a link with SEO value when in fact it has none. That is unethical.

Get it?

[erothchild]

This is good advice people, read my posts and try to understand what I am saying and take it or don't read them and leave it so my sites beat yours.

Here is a challenge for you, explain to me how its fraud and the links to the sites have no SEO value if the directory:

*Has Zero no spiders on it
*Has plenty of back links
*Gets spidered regularly
*Has placement in the SERPS
*Has a good Page Rank?

Not sure about you folks but I would take those links all day long especially because they are viewed as a one way incoming link each way by the search engines.

Cheers,

[stymiee]

You completely miss the point. You're misleading other webmaster into thinking they are getting a link that has SEO value. By blocking it from the search engines it has none.

[erothchild]

I am not blocking it from the search engines. Jesus, did you read anything I wrote?

The redirect ONLY stops it from going from the main site to the directory to accomplish 2 things, one it will keep spiders that come into the main site on the main site (the spiders that go to directly the directory stay there which is why it is important to submit it) and it gets the spiders to look at the directory as a separate site with lots and lots of SEO value. The directory:

*Has Zero no spiders on it
*Has plenty of back links
*Gets spidered regularly
*Has placement in the SERPS
*Has a good Page Rank

So please... Explain to all of us how that offers no SEO value.

Please, to avoid being redundant, do me a favor and read my original post again and try to understand that I am not advising people to block the spider from the directory, I am just showing how to separate the site from the directory so the spiders see 2 sites instead of 1, both offer good SEO value and BOTH linking sites get a one way incoming link which offers even more seo value to both parties involved in the link exchange.

[stymiee]

You obviously need to have your memory refreshed. Here is where you said it:

A directory ISa good idea for SEO on your site.

I will show you a way to get ONE way links to your site by aiming your reciprical links to your home page or internal page (more important than ever to get internal pages)

You can do it like this:

Create 2 folders to the root of the website you can call them GO and Directory.

Install your new directory into the directory folder.

Edit the Meta Refresh in the "Go" "index.html" to point to the http://www.yoursite.com/Directory

Add Disallow: /go/ to your robots.txt file

Create the link for visitors that will take them to the redirect.

You can use something like this: ADD URL

Since the redirect is a standard meta refresh, and is disallowed from robots, it is not spidered, or followed, so this is a perfectly legal way to make sure the spiders never see the destination page! (in fact, this exact method was endorsed by a Google Engineer in Webmaster World)

Try to argue your way out of that now.

[erothchild]

No its not, its only a way to stop them from going through THAT particular folder, the web will have plenty of other links going to the directory if you follow the directions. The spiders are welcome from any other submission.

BTW I am not arguing, just trying to teach you something but it seems that you are not willing to listen.

If you pay attention to what you JUST quoted from my FIRST POST, you will see that the meta refreshes INTO the second folder where the DIRECTORY is, there is NOT A NO FOLLOW on the directory.

Since the GO folder only has the one file and no links it does not need to be spidered so we are okay to put a no follow there, keep in mind that the directory will not have a no follow if you follw the directions that you just posted.

AGAIN submit the directory folder and it will get indexed and spidered and it WILL gain Pagerank.

You never told me how the links have no SEO value either.

How many more ways can I say the same thing to you man? I can keep it up until the light bulb goes off but you have to pay attention.

Read this to yourself 5 times before you post:

***{Edit the Meta Refresh in the "Go" "index.html" to point to the http://www.yoursite.com/Directory
Add Disallow: /go/ to your robots.txt file. Submit the directory to engines. Enjoy one way links in both directions}***

See the GO folder is the only one with the no-follow tag and that means the directory will get spidered and indexed. and who cares if the "GO" folder does not send the spider to the Directory folder when it is getting submitted itself to bring spiders and get itself lots and lots of SEO value.

[stymiee]

By blocking that page in the go folder you essentially block any pages that use that folder to be found by humans and search engines. You're trying to make it look innocent but it isn't. You're cheating people out of links. I don't know who you think you are fooling.

[olson]

I actually read it in a different post here, maybe I misunderstood what they were saying. Getting inbound links seems to be an impossilble task without spending all kinds of money.

You shouldn't pay for links either. Just write a good site with good content. Optomize the code right and wait/ask people to link. If no one wants to link to you, you most likely don't have anything worth linking too!