Ok I got something Visual C++ is that alright

Some other possibilities

http://www.ogre3d.org/
http://www.blender3d.org/cms/Game_en...ics.212.0.html

OoO ORGE is sweet

But the question is where Can I downlooad it with out having to run bunch of stuff?? like pre compiled

Well... What I mean is like where I can just do the graphicing ? Any pre mades? Which one should I download tehres SDK and anthoer

The info is all there on the site. I'm using blender's game engine at the moment but only cos i'm already versed in creating models and familar with the interface.

Well... I cant get this to work...

*Sigh*...

When you say "I can't get this to work" and expecting us to find the solution, that just doesn't help.

When you write a game, you usually create the 3D models with a 3D modelling program such as Blender. These are then saved for later use.

Then in the program's code, it loads the model from the file when it needs it, parses the data, and saves the resulting data into memory. This data is then used to draw the model to the screen.

The OpenGL SDK will be installed in:
<compiler directory>/include/gl.h glu.h glut.h
<compiler directory>/libs/glut32.lib glu32.lib

If you may have noticed, GLUT is not part of the OpenGL SDK and may have to be downloaded, as it's very helpful when creating OpenGL windows and other interface tasks.

The most important tip when compiling OpenGL apps is to make sure that the lib files (glut32.lib/glu32.lib) are linked with the project. Instructions for adding these files to the link list are compiler-specific, so look for a list of .lib files, and just add glu32.lib and glut32.lib to that list.

exaclty....

i mastered vb for concepts then c++ console apps, then i leart basic win32/mfc then i got a book on directx game making which came with tutorials, modelling software and an IDE