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Mar 27th, 2008

Re: Is it too late to learn Python

Compared to Java, Python has simplified a lot of the syntax. It will spoil you, and you may actually have fun.

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Re: Is it too late to learn Python

The proof is in the pudding. Take a small project like creating a monthly calendar and try to do it with Java and then with Python.

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Re: Is it too late to learn Python

Click to Expand / Collapse Quote originally posted by ZZucker ...

Look at the syntax of Java and Python. Which one would you rather use?

In that case Java.

Only reason I have never tryed Python is because of the syntax. I feel that is far removed from everything else. Switching from C++ to C to Java to C# is simple, The syntax in the languages are very similar, But that may just be me.

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Re: Is it too late to learn Python

python has defiantly spioled me!

i hate the look of other languages even tho i'd love to learn them.. whenever i try.. i end up going back to python just cause it's so much clearer and quicker to make things.

i just wish it was a bit easier to create standalone programs that don't need the interpreter running. (i've tried py2exe but i just can't get my head round it)

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Re: Is it too late to learn Python

Okay Paul, in your case you use what you are familiar with.

Here is a little Python code, that I have asked people to write in C++, C, Java or C# ...

python Syntax (Toggle Plain Text)
a = 111111111   # that's nine ones
print a * a     # 12345678987654321
a = 111111111   # that's nine ones
print a * a     # 12345678987654321

If it's late in the day and counting off nine ones is difficult you can use a = int('1'*9)

Last edited by vegaseat; Mar 30th, 2008 at 10:41 am.

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Re: Is it too late to learn Python

hehe, nicely put vega, i totally forgot about that beautiful aspect of python

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Re: Is it too late to learn Python

The thing about Python that I find more appealing than C, C++, Java, etc. is how you really don't need that many modules to do heavy things. You also aren't required to declare classes and functions to write a simple program.

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Re: Is it too late to learn Python

That scares me a little, How does one implement a rotating counter in python ?

c# Syntax (Toggle Plain Text)
	class Program
	{
		public static void Main(string[] args)
		{
			ulong a = 111111111; // Thats 9 1's
			System.Console.WriteLine((a * a));
		}
	}
	class Program
	{
		public static void Main(string[] args)
		{
			ulong a = 111111111; // Thats 9 1's
			System.Console.WriteLine((a * a));
		}
	}

using C++ and .net

c++ Syntax (Toggle Plain Text)
using namespace System;
 
int main(array<System::String ^> ^args)
{
	Int64 a = 111111111;
    Console::WriteLine( Int64(a * a) );
    return 0;
}
using namespace System;

int main(array<System::String ^> ^args)
{
	Int64 a = 111111111;
    Console::WriteLine( Int64(a * a) );
    return 0;
}

java Syntax (Toggle Plain Text)
//Don't have a java compiler but would be somthing along the lines of 
long a = 111111111;
System.out.println( (a * a).toString());
//Don't have a java compiler but would be somthing along the lines of 
long a = 111111111;
System.out.println( (a * a).toString());

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Re: Is it too late to learn Python

sorry and in C

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#include <stdio.h>
int main(){
	long long a = 111111111;
	printf("%lld", a * a );
	return 0;
}
#include <stdio.h>
int main(){
	long long a = 111111111;
	printf("%lld", a * a );
	return 0;
}

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Re: Is it too late to learn Python

Thanks for the samples of C, C++, C# and Java they make Python code look alarmingly simple.

Paul, what C++ compiler are you using?
The open source g++ gives me lots of errors:

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Compiler: Default compiler
Building Makefile: "C:\Dev-Cpp\AtestCON\NineOnes1\Makefile.win"
Executing make...
make.exe -f "C:\Dev-Cpp\testCON\NineOnes1\Makefile.win" all
g++.exe -c main.cpp -o main.o -I"C:/Dev-Cpp/lib/gcc/mingw32/3.4.2/include" -I"C:/Dev-Cpp/include/c++/3.4.2/backward" -I"C:/Dev-Cpp/include/c++/3.4.2/mingw32" -I"C:/Dev-Cpp/include/c++/3.4.2" -I"C:/Dev-Cpp/include"

main.cpp:1: error: expected namespace-name before ';' token

main.cpp:1: error: `<type error>' is not a namespace
main.cpp:3: error: `array' was not declared in this scope
main.cpp:3: error: `System' has not been declared
main.cpp:3: error: `String' was not declared in this scope

main.cpp:3: error: expected primary-expression before '>' token
main.cpp:3: error: expected primary-expression before '^' token
main.cpp:3: error: `args' was not declared in this scope
main.cpp:4: error: expected `,' or `;' before '{' token

make.exe: *** [main.o] Error 1

Execution terminated

Do you really think that this C++ code:

Python Syntax (Toggle Plain Text)
using namespace System;
 
int main(array<System::String ^> ^args)
{
	Int64 a = 111111111;
    Console::WriteLine( Int64(a * a) );
    return 0;
}
using namespace System;

int main(array<System::String ^> ^args)
{
	Int64 a = 111111111;
    Console::WriteLine( Int64(a * a) );
    return 0;
}

is easier to understand than Python:

python Syntax (Toggle Plain Text)

a = 111111111
print a * a

Last edited by ZZucker; Mar 31st, 2008 at 12:19 pm.

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