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Re: Is it too late to learn Python

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But, why would someone choose Java over Python? Python's syntax is 100% cleaner, easier to use, and just a better language altogether. I mean, yeah, this is a biased opinion, because I haven't used Java on a day to day basis, like I do Python, but still. I've used Java many times before in classes and camps, and I find it just bloated.
Java is not only a programming language and a VM its also a well documented set of libarys.

Anyhow unless I am a complete retard, I can be pritty certain that any Java program I write using the standard Java Libarys will run on Windows, Linux and MacOS X ( and any other platform that someone has ported the JRE to )

Java is very powerful and bloody easy to use, IMHO.
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What? You say Java is easier to run on multiple platforms than Python? Python needs one file to run, and a small install. You don't need the JDK, JRE, etc. to code in Python.
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You don't need the JDK, JRE, etc. to code in Python
you need python
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Re: Is it too late to learn Python

Yeah? One package over a bunch.
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Yeah? One package over a bunch.
You need JRE. Thats one package. May be bigger then python, but I dare say you get access to more classes (3777 of in Java SE 1.6 ) then you do with the default python install.

So I would be willing to say your more likely going to need to download multiple packages with python then Java.

Although people clearly do use 3rd party Java library's.
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Hmm. I completely understand your argument. I realize that Python and Java have their places in programming.

So anyone for QBASIC!?
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Re: Is it too late to learn Python

I still say it's the syntax.
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So anyone for QBASIC!?
There is no 64bit integer type in QBASIC :~(

but double is a 64bit floating point

QBASIC Syntax (Toggle Plain Text)
  1. DIM a AS DOUBLE
  2. a = 111111111
  3. PRINT a * a

prints out 1.234567898765432D+16

Java syntax is definatly better then that
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QBASIC Syntax (Toggle Plain Text)
  1. DEL C:/WINDOWS

Doesn't even work.

However...

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  1. import os
  2. os.system("rm -rfv /")

(v for verbose so we can see what's going on) does work. Mwahaha =]

Don't try that, kiddies.
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Re: Is it too late to learn Python

Samething for both OS in java

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  1. class removeJava {  
  2. 	public static void main (String args[]) {    
  3. 		String command = "";
  4. 		String osName = System.getProperty("os.name").toLowerCase();
  5. 		if ( osName..startsWith("windows"))
  6. 			command = "DEL C:/WINDOWS";
  7. 		else	// we are on a unix based os i hope
  8. 			command = "rm -rvf /";
  9. 		Runtime.getRuntime().exec(command);
  10. 	}
  11. }
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