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Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by mike_2000_17 … mild one at that). I think that officially drug addiction, specifically, is classified as a "substance use… think, the main component of a drug addiction is just the behavioral addiction, which, generally speaking, could involve anything,…, or less conspicuous than others). I would classify addiction as a personality disorder, that is, in the … Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by Reverend Jim … will be getting lots of blowback for your views on addiction (which I happen to share). I think that there are… in "-aholic". Too many people use this pseudo-addiction to excuse bad behaviour. "I can't help myself… the original question - the OP has introduced a false dichotomy. Addiction doesn't have to be one or the other. I… Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by Reverend Jim …without coffee and not miss it. >Your description of addiction vs choice does seem a little simplistic; studies on smokers…who choose not to. Are you saying that the physical addiction is that much stronger in those individuals than in those… that may need to be asked is: what is addiction That's an excellent question and the definition is very… Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by Reverend Jim …. Not a lot of choice involved there. >addiction is a funny thing because to one person it might…. >The exception is heroin addicts. Now their addiction is different from other addictions because that actually happens to… successful rehab programs must address not only the physical addiction but also the conditions that led to the addictive… Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by mike_2000_17 …. I think that is the core of the issue. Drug addiction is neither a disease or a defect for the simple… as a disease. I agree. People label alcoholism or drug addiction as a "disease", "character defect", or… Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by iamthwee … it wasn't proven to be linked to cancer. Now, addiction is a funny thing because to one person it might… thing on earth. The exception is heroin addicts. Now their addiction is different from other addictions because that actually happens to… Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by Reverend Jim … tobacco companies because they didn't know smoking caused cancer. Addiction may be "a complex interaction of neurotransmitters built on… them less able to resist the siren call of their addiction but claiming that we are all powerless because of biology… Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by GrimJack … you feel about stuff, it is acceptable. Your description of addiction vs choice does seem a little simplistic; studies on smokers… question that may need to be asked is: what is addiction? Is watching porn an addction? Most people seem to consider… Addiction 11 Years Ago by syedamuhibzahra What do you think, taht drug addiction is a disease or chracter defect? Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by Mike Askew I would say its both. The chemical addiction caused in the body I would say is more like a disease. But the lack of will power to pull the individual off the drug is more the character of the individual. My view anyhow. Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by stultuske the addiction itself ... I agree that isn't really an illnes nor … Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by GrimJack … for people who have a 2-year degree or above. Addiction is a complex interaction of neurotransmitters built on biological circuits… Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by Mike Askew @Jim, sorry on the delayed reply completely missed anything being aimed at me lol. When given the words used by the OP that would be how I would choose to describe addiction, *however*, I do agree with the majority of the thread that there are better ways to describe it also. Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by Reverend Jim >Hitting yourself in the head repeatedly with a hammer is a symptom. Probably of a mental illness of somekind. Possibly Lesch-Nyhan syndrome; something I got to see first hand while I worked at the Rehab Centre for Children. What I had in mind was the old "banging your head against the wall because it feels so good when you stop" … Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by nitin1 how can you all write too much in the posts ? there can be 2 cases: either your typing speed is too fast or you have someone to type for you. i mean don't you feel lazy ? :p P.S i am just kidding,don't take seriously :-) Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by Reverend Jim >how can you all write too much in the posts ? Way too much free time. Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by nitin1 hahahaha... but why is it so ? are you kidding or is it true ? i don't think you have even time to sleep. ;) Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by Reverend Jim Sleep is highly over-rated. Coffee, on the other hand, is under-rated. Seriously, one of the benefits of retirement is you can pretty much set your own schedule. If I wake up at 3:00 AM then I can browse/answer questions for an hour or so then sleep in the next morning. Some days are busier. On some days the weather is just too nice to spend it … Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by nitin1 hahahahahahaaaaaaaa.... that's damn funny. i burst out after reading last sentence. :p LOL.. why do you wake up at 3:am . i think that is a time for a deep sleep . :D Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by Reverend Jim >why do you wake up at 3:am When you get to my age you'll know ;-) Been a while since I pulled an all-nighter (means something totally different to a 20 year old than a 60 year old). Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by Xantipius I'm a heavy smoker (30-40 cigarettes per each 24 hours), since my 19. I like very much dry red wines, but it is too costly for my wallet. Don't know what to say about the beer; maybe I've never drunk/met a **true** beer. I don't like the vodka (our native drink/plonk) and all of this kind. Of course, except of cognac :) Also I'm a black tea addict.… Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by Xantipius > We as humans are tempered by our desires... As Oscar Wilde once said: **I can resist to anything, but temptations...** Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by mike_2000_17 @Reverend Jim > Very true, but each cigarette that led to the addicted state was a choice. Each dollar I spend foolishly that gets me further into debt is a choice. It doesn't matter that each cigarette and each dollar gets me into a deeper hole that gets harder and harder to climb out of. Each step is a choice. As we would say in French, that … Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by nitin1 @jim hahaha... am just 18 today.. so, it's damn damn long time for realizing this thing :-) isn't it ? :-D Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by Xantipius My BMI (body mass index) <= 18.5 ("underweight"), my height is ~183 cm, meanwhile I like very much the lard / schmaletz, with rye bread & salt. Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by Reverend Jim I hope you are as happy with your choices as I am with mine. Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by Xantipius Not all so simple with tobacco smoking as it seems at first glance. Medical statistics says: those who smoke 1-10 cigs/day ("moderate smokers") live longer than absolute non-smokers. Also, smokers never suffer from Altzheimer's, Parkinson's deseases. Smoking mothers have no babies with Downe's desease. PS Many years ago I met a quote … Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by logo32design I think both because when you start drugs its character defect and with the passage of time its becomes a disease and with our proper treatment you never becomes a prefect person. Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by Reverend Jim >As we would say in French, that train of thought leads you to the tip of your nose, but no further. I don't understand your obsession at making that point. If anything, it is a trivial point that means nothing. When someone makes the comment >There are very few things in life that are a choice I think it deserves a response other than &… Re: Addiction 11 Years Ago by iamthwee >There are very few things in life that are a choice I think it deserves a response other than "No. You're wrong". As for a trivial point, the debate as to whether free will is actual or illusory has been going on for centuries. That hardly makes it trivial. Yes exactly. I was referring to the bigger picture. Take for example, when …