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Finally got rid of that annoying error message (thanks) but have encountered a rather strange problem. In my profile only I have "lost" the windows program events in the sounds and audio devices window and therefore have no logon or logoff sounds (although that may be a blessing in disguise), etc. - any ideas?
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Originally Posted by LoveDoc
Finally got rid of that annoying error message (thanks) but have encountered a rather strange problem. In my profile only I have "lost" the windows program events in the sounds and audio devices window and therefore have no logon or logoff sounds (although that may be a blessing in disguise), etc. - any ideas?
i wood try re-installing ur service pack, if u run 1 or 2....
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Originally Posted by navyjax2
Forgot to mention: Must delete cmuda.dll from C:\Windows\System32\drivers as well. And that was supposed to be Cmcpls in the other post for the "Cpls" section, not CMCPlus - wrote that kinda hurridly, but hopefully you all could figure it out.
Side note --- I have found that on a computer with muliple users with this issue that, when they log in, the C-Media driver kicks in again, and this fix won't work on their side of the fence, though your side that you started all this on and fixed will work fine. You would have to try to find out where the cab file or whatever it downloaded into/as and delete that for this to work, as it's obviously still pulling that C-Media driver from SOMEWHERE - I haven't found it yet, as I thought it would have been in one of those Temp locations - always good to delete those out from time to time, anyway. I don't know if I'll waste my time with it or if I will find it, since it's just me and my wife and it's just her side that's messed up now, and she has her own computer and doesn't log into mine very often. Have some other things SP2 messed up that I think I'm gonna just fix with a re-install rather than taking the weeks to find one cab file that has what I'm looking for, but thought I'd pass on the warning to not expect a complete recovery for other users on the computer, unless someone else has a better answer... Best of luck.
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Important files? They get re-installed when you run the Realtek AC'97 Audio installer.
If you can't get it working under the logon user that had it mess up as, you probably don't have the right Realtek installer - there are multiple types even for this same driver - Device Manager won't show you the difference - I also found that out the hard way. You basically should go to your computer manufacturers site & download the sound driver for your model there. Takes the guess work out of it.
As for that "*******" part, if you were so smart, you'd be posting up things to help people as I am trying to do, instead of insulting those that are just trying to help because you didn't read a post thoroughly. Issues like these that are really in-depth and get into the registry and system file structure should never been done whimsically without reading everything in the post first, so your comment that I conveniently left the multiple user part at the end really shows a lack of good common sense, that you're complaining about it. I didn't find out about that part myself until I posted it, where and when I posted it. Be glad I at least thought to add it.
If you can't get it working under the logon user that had it mess up as, you probably don't have the right Realtek installer - there are multiple types even for this same driver - Device Manager won't show you the difference - I also found that out the hard way. You basically should go to your computer manufacturers site & download the sound driver for your model there. Takes the guess work out of it.
As for that "*******" part, if you were so smart, you'd be posting up things to help people as I am trying to do, instead of insulting those that are just trying to help because you didn't read a post thoroughly. Issues like these that are really in-depth and get into the registry and system file structure should never been done whimsically without reading everything in the post first, so your comment that I conveniently left the multiple user part at the end really shows a lack of good common sense, that you're complaining about it. I didn't find out about that part myself until I posted it, where and when I posted it. Be glad I at least thought to add it.
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I did all the things in the registry etc to get rid of C-Media. I have an American Megatrends mother board 07.00t 04/02/01 ECS K7S5A 1.0. The sound card is built in and is a SiS 7012 which I install from the motherboard CD under codec 635.
I have sound on my computer except for the .wav files that control Windows Start up, Shutdown etc. I have everything set up in Sounds & Audio in the control panel and when I test them, they play. However when I actually startup or shutdown they don't play. I unstalled the SiS 7012 audio driver and resinstalled it from the Motherboard CD but still no music. I can play midi files in media player. I am comfortable with software but know nothng about hardware and very little about drivers.
Since I have the SiS 7012 audio driver, can I install Realtek AC'97 also and will that get my sounds working?
When store built computer it had 89SE. Later I had him format and put on XP SP2. Sounds worked fine.
I believe I screwed up when I went into device manger and tried to update SiS 7012 sound driver and got C-media on my machine. As mentioned, I did all the thhings you said to do in the registry and reinstalled the SiS 7012 driver. My computer works just fine including sounds from email attachments, microphone etc. The only thing that doesn't work are the .wav files in sound audio when I start up and shutdown. They do work when I test them in audio and sounds in control panel.
I have sound on my computer except for the .wav files that control Windows Start up, Shutdown etc. I have everything set up in Sounds & Audio in the control panel and when I test them, they play. However when I actually startup or shutdown they don't play. I unstalled the SiS 7012 audio driver and resinstalled it from the Motherboard CD but still no music. I can play midi files in media player. I am comfortable with software but know nothng about hardware and very little about drivers.
Since I have the SiS 7012 audio driver, can I install Realtek AC'97 also and will that get my sounds working?
When store built computer it had 89SE. Later I had him format and put on XP SP2. Sounds worked fine.
I believe I screwed up when I went into device manger and tried to update SiS 7012 sound driver and got C-media on my machine. As mentioned, I did all the thhings you said to do in the registry and reinstalled the SiS 7012 driver. My computer works just fine including sounds from email attachments, microphone etc. The only thing that doesn't work are the .wav files in sound audio when I start up and shutdown. They do work when I test them in audio and sounds in control panel.
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Maybe you could check your sound scheme to make sure there is a logon and logoff sound selected for your profile. Long shot, but good to check: Control Panel, Sounds and Audio Devices, Sounds tab. Select "Windows Default" in that drop-down box. You can even scroll in that "Program Events" box for a "Start Windows" sound under the "Windows" category, select it and hit the Play button and see if it plays. Even if it doesn't, you could hit Apply and OK, and reboot and see if it works after that. If not, you can go back to that "Start Windows" sound and hit "Browse" and replace it with a sound that does work, perhaps.
Since you are able to play some sounds, just not the logon or logoff one, it doesn't sound like it's the sound driver to me. If you did want to try it if nothing else works, though, I'd say to uninstall your current sound driver from Add/Remove Programs and the Device Manager, and download the SiS driver from their site and forego the motherboard CD -
You can go to http://www.sis.com/download/, click on Audio Driver, SiS 7012, then your OS, and hit "Go", then click the link for the driver, then hit download.
Since you are able to play some sounds, just not the logon or logoff one, it doesn't sound like it's the sound driver to me. If you did want to try it if nothing else works, though, I'd say to uninstall your current sound driver from Add/Remove Programs and the Device Manager, and download the SiS driver from their site and forego the motherboard CD -
You can go to http://www.sis.com/download/, click on Audio Driver, SiS 7012, then your OS, and hit "Go", then click the link for the driver, then hit download.
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Scheme is set at default and "all" windows sounds play when tested in audio/sounds in control panel. Just don't play when the event happens. Since things worked using Motherboard CD originally and sounds other than the windows sounds work, you must be right that it is not the sound driver. I guess I will just live without the windows sounds.
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Take a look at this: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...598fce8f80f60f.
I actually doubt it has to do with TweakUI, for them or for you, as I've ran that great utility from Microsoft just fine, but the people involved were running W2K and not XP, which is what TweakUI was made for (XP). I'm not altogether certain all the different stuff involved, for them or for you, but I do know how to get your logon/logoff sounds working again.
It sounds like the profile, or perhaps more specifically, perhaps just the ntuser.dat file has become corrupted. A new profile and profile migration is in order.
Go to the registry. Your key you will be looking for is HKLM\Software\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList. Find the key in there that corresponds with your present/old username (click on the subkeys there, check the path in the right-hand-side window, look for C:\Documents and Settings\usernamehere). Delete your present username's key, but ONLY that key - and note, you will be unable to log into your computer with that account - if it's the only one on the machine besides the built-in "Administrator", you may want to create another admin account before my next step I'm giving and log into that instead of Safe Mode as I'm describing. Reboot. Start up in Safe Mode by hitting F8 just after your motherboard BIOS finishes, choose Safe Mode from the menu. This way you can be logged in as "Administrator" and out of your old profile, and don't have to create any unnecessary profiles/accounts on the machine. Rename your old profile's folder in C:\Documents and Settings from something like, auggief to auggief.old, for instance, if auggief were your profile folder there. Reboot and log in like you normally do (automatic log in should work the same as it did before now that your old folder is renamed). Turn on hidden folders (Tools, Folder Options, View tab, Show hidden files and folders in a Windows Explorer window). Open up two Explorer windows side-by-side, one to, for example, C:\Documents and Settings\auggief and one to C:\Documents and Settings\auggief.old. You will want to copy the following folders' contents from these old folders into the new folders: Application Data, Cookies (only if you have saved passwords for websites, otherwise I'd forget these), Desktop, (My) Documents, Favorites, (My) Recent(s) (Documents), NetHood, SendTo, Start Menu, Templates. Parenthesis are because sometimes the names are a little different depending on the configuration (Domain vs. Local account, Pro vs. Home Edition or W2K). Then you will want to go into the Local Settings folder and grab just the Application Data and maybe your History folder if you care about links being purple instead of blue that you've been to before, and copy it to the same place in the new profile. Don't copy anything but those folders - you should be leaving behind the UserData, WINDOWS, ntuser.dat, ntuser.dat.LOG, and maybe some miscellaneous other small files there. You can then delete your old "auggief.old" account folder in Documents and Settings. Hopefully that should work/help if you were able to follow.
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I actually doubt it has to do with TweakUI, for them or for you, as I've ran that great utility from Microsoft just fine, but the people involved were running W2K and not XP, which is what TweakUI was made for (XP). I'm not altogether certain all the different stuff involved, for them or for you, but I do know how to get your logon/logoff sounds working again.
It sounds like the profile, or perhaps more specifically, perhaps just the ntuser.dat file has become corrupted. A new profile and profile migration is in order.
Go to the registry. Your key you will be looking for is HKLM\Software\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList. Find the key in there that corresponds with your present/old username (click on the subkeys there, check the path in the right-hand-side window, look for C:\Documents and Settings\usernamehere). Delete your present username's key, but ONLY that key - and note, you will be unable to log into your computer with that account - if it's the only one on the machine besides the built-in "Administrator", you may want to create another admin account before my next step I'm giving and log into that instead of Safe Mode as I'm describing. Reboot. Start up in Safe Mode by hitting F8 just after your motherboard BIOS finishes, choose Safe Mode from the menu. This way you can be logged in as "Administrator" and out of your old profile, and don't have to create any unnecessary profiles/accounts on the machine. Rename your old profile's folder in C:\Documents and Settings from something like, auggief to auggief.old, for instance, if auggief were your profile folder there. Reboot and log in like you normally do (automatic log in should work the same as it did before now that your old folder is renamed). Turn on hidden folders (Tools, Folder Options, View tab, Show hidden files and folders in a Windows Explorer window). Open up two Explorer windows side-by-side, one to, for example, C:\Documents and Settings\auggief and one to C:\Documents and Settings\auggief.old. You will want to copy the following folders' contents from these old folders into the new folders: Application Data, Cookies (only if you have saved passwords for websites, otherwise I'd forget these), Desktop, (My) Documents, Favorites, (My) Recent(s) (Documents), NetHood, SendTo, Start Menu, Templates. Parenthesis are because sometimes the names are a little different depending on the configuration (Domain vs. Local account, Pro vs. Home Edition or W2K). Then you will want to go into the Local Settings folder and grab just the Application Data and maybe your History folder if you care about links being purple instead of blue that you've been to before, and copy it to the same place in the new profile. Don't copy anything but those folders - you should be leaving behind the UserData, WINDOWS, ntuser.dat, ntuser.dat.LOG, and maybe some miscellaneous other small files there. You can then delete your old "auggief.old" account folder in Documents and Settings. Hopefully that should work/help if you were able to follow.
If this helps you or anyone else, please feel free to donate at http://hometown.aol.com/navyjax2 or http://hometown.aol.com/navyjax2/donate.htm. Thanks.
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I created another user and sure enough I got the music sounds. So I guess the Tweak UI might have done it to my XP. I need to study your answer so that I do it right in the registry or I guess I can so the safe mode and stay out of the registry. Many thanks. I have already deleted the new user I created to see if music would play.
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I went into safe mode and used Adminstrator to log in. I need to ask if I rename auggief to auggiefold and restart, I will then be in regular mode and assume that everything will be there from auggief. I would rather do without the music then lose my current setup with auggief . Are you saying that when I restart, and go into Doc & Settings I will show two profiles, auggief and auggiefold. It that is correct, then I do the split screen thing and copy and paste the files as you instructed. Sorry, but I am not comfortable with something this technical.
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