2008 US Presidential Poll Part 2 - Page 13

[Dave Sinkula]

How long has legacy media been around? Cronkite sank your boat ages ago.

[GrimJack]

How long has legacy media been around? Cronkite sunk your boat ages ago.

McCarthy? Paul Harvey? Walter Winchel?

[Dave Sinkula]

They were "the most trusted man in America" too?

[vegaseat]

By hook or by crook: The New Republicans

Thanks for the article Grim.
Now that stuff smaks of true voter fraud.

I got one of those automated calls from the RNC this morning, telling me that Obama is a terrorist. I feel urinated on! My vote is going somewhere else this year.

[Aia]

>telling me that Obama is a terrorist.
Was that the exact words or it is that your interpretation?
This is not a loaded question. I pay attention to truth. Will appreciate your answer.

[vegaseat]

That thing didn't leave much room for interpretation!

Retired U.S. Gen. Colin Powell, a former secretary of state in the Bush administration, on Sunday endorsed Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.

Now, Colin Powell should smell a terrorist when he sees one. I trust his judgment!

[Aia]

That thing didn't leave much room for interpretation!

I am going to assume that's the response to my inquire. And while it doesn't answer it, it tells me what I need to know.

I do not agree Mr. Obama is a terrorist. All the information presented before me show that he just associates with terrorists. Whether he's influenced by that association is a matter of speculation. It is for the concerned to make his/her mind if that is sufficient to cast a doubt in his reputation or credibility. Of course, it doesn't help when he has tried to mislead the voter about his association.

>Now, Colin Powell should smell a terrorist when he sees one. I trust his judgment!
Did you trust him when he was in Bush's Cabinet?

[sneekula]

"I will make a bargain with the Republicans. If they will stop telling lies about Democrats, we will stop telling the truth about the Republicans."

Who said this?
A. Adlai Stevenson
B. Richard Nixon
C. Grace Kelly
D. John Kerry

[HiHe]

Ya'll are just misunderestimating President McCain.

[Aia]

"I will make a bargain with the Republicans. If they will stop telling lies about Democrats, we will stop telling the truth about the Republicans."

Who said this?
A. Adlai Stevenson
B. Richard Nixon
C. Grace Kelly
D. John Kerry

Let me guess: An obsessed, misguided liberal that sees republicans even in a bowl of soap.

[ZZucker]

Thanks for the article Grim.
Now that stuff smaks of true voter fraud.

I got one of those automated calls from the RNC this morning, telling me that Obama is a terrorist. I feel urinated on! My vote is going somewhere else this year.

Well, when you hang around with terrorist, you are most likely one too! Just listen to Sarah Palin, she tells the truth.

[Dave Sinkula]

I think some people need to learn to listen to what is actually being said rather than what others tell them they are supposed to hear.

[GrimJack]

Paddy Power paying presidential prize (I had to stretch to keep it aliterative). Irish bookie is already paying out on Obama win.

[GrimJack]

Irony bites.

[ZZucker]

This bites too!

[Ene Uran]

Here is McCain's best chance to win the election! Obama has to leave the campaign for a few days to tend to his ailing grandmother, the woman that raised him.

[Ene Uran]

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE:
"You know what they forgot? They forgot to let you decide. My friends, we have got them just where we want them."

The voting public in the USA:
A new national poll suggests that only a quarter of Americans think things are going well in the country, while the rest of those questioned are angry, scared and stressed out. Seventy-five percent of those surveyed in a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll released today said things are going badly in the United States

[jbennet]

what we are forgetting is that we are assuming they will actually vote sensibly.

I mean, they voted for George W TWICE.

People may say , when asked by a pollster, that they will vote for Obama, but im betting a significant majority of them will in fact not due to the fact that he is black and raism is still very rife in the united states.

[GrimJack]

Fool that I am, I still hold out hope for humanity. I think a lot of them are going to go into the voting booth and say to themselves "I can't believe I am going to vote for a N-word, but that is the only hope I have left." Sometimes, the shock is so great that they are forced to evolve.

[sneekula]

There are quite a number of states in the US where you need a driver's license to vote. One out of four black folks don't have a driver's license. They are simply too poor to own a car.

Many states put their oldest voting machines into the inner cities, where most black voters live. When these old things fail, the vote is often just thrown out.

Now that is voter fraud!

[sidatra79]

There are quite a number of states in the US where you need a driver's license to vote. One out of four black folks don't have a driver's license. They are simply too poor to own a car.

Many states put their oldest voting machines into the inner cities, where most black voters live. When these old things fail, the vote is often just thrown out.

Now that is voter fraud!

no wonder why the ...bush manage not to get "burned" twice....

[Lardmeister]

no wonder why the ...bush manage not to get "burned" twice....

Hahahahahahahaha, you should be a comedian!

I am too young to vote, but I enjoy the preliminaries.

Here are some things the Republicans came up with to smear Obama:

Obama is black!
Well, he is half white. Is his right side black and his left side white or is the other way around?

Obama is a Muslim!
No, but so what?

Obama kills unborn children!
Why don't you lock him up in Sing Sing Prison?

Obama is a terrorist!
Why don't you lock him up in Guantanamo Torture Camp?

Obama is not one of us!
No UFO sightings have been reported lately!

Obama is a socialist!
McCain just supported the biggest giveaway of tax money in US history!

Obama is a communist!
Can't be! I have never seen him at the meetings!

Obama fathered two black children in wedlock!
Now you caught him red handed!

[sneekula]

John McCain had another of his senior moments during a rally in Western Pennsylvania:
"My opponent's supporters said some nasty things about Western Pennsylvania!"
The fired up crowd boos against the opponent's supporters. McCain goes on:
"I agree fully with them!"
Dead silence in the crowd. McCain realizes something he said was wrong, so he tries to correct it, but fails:
"I disagree with you!"
Not much applause from the partisan crowd. A few more tries and he finally manages to correct his mistake.

As seen on MSNBC TV.

[sneekula]

Hahahahahahahaha, you should be a comedian!

I am too young to vote, but I enjoy the preliminaries.

Here are some things the Republicans came up with to smear Obama:

Obama is black!
Well, he is half white. Is his right side black and his left side white or is the other way around?

Obama is a Muslim!
No, but so what?

Obama kills unborn children!
Why don't you lock him up in Sing Sing Prison?

Obama is a terrorist!
Why don't you lock him up in Guantanamo Torture Camp?

Obama is not one of us!
No UFO sightings have been reported lately!

Obama is a socialist!
McCain just supported the biggest giveaway of tax money in US history!

Obama is a communist!
Can't be! I have never seen him at the meetings!

Obama fathered two black children in wedlock!
Now you caught him red handed!

You forgot one:
Obama is a Liberal!
According to one of the goofball female representatives from Minnesota all Liberals are anti-American!

http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2008/10/michele_bachman_7.php

[HiHe]

John McCain had another of his senior moments during a rally in Western Pennsylvania:
"My opponent's supporters said some nasty things about Western Pennsylvania!"
The fired up crowd boos against the opponent's supporters. McCain goes on:
"I agree fully with them!"
Dead silence in the crowd. McCain realizes something he said was wrong, so he tries to correct it, but fails:
"I disagree with you!"
Not much applause from the partisan crowd. A few more tries and he finally manages to correct his mistake.

As seen on MSNBC TV.

Seniors are allowed to have senior moments!

[Ancient Dragon]

Seniors are allowed to have senior moments!

That may be true, but do we really want a President who has to many of them ???

[Aia]

Seniors are allowed to have senior moments!

First you have to buy into "the senior moment" thing.
That's nothing more that campaign dynamics. Candidates may say little things here and there, do to many factors, that may sound embarrassing. If not ask Joe Biden, he's a pro doing it, and certainly Obamar is a master at having "senior moments". Just no one use that excuse with him.

[HiHe]

Scott McClellan, President Bush's former press secretary said on Thursday that he is backing Barack Obama for president. All this ingratitude despite McCain's proud claim in the primaries that he had voted 90% with Bush.

According to Karl Rove, the man who made Bush, the stockmarket is faltering because it looks more and more that Obama might win. So now it's --
Obama is scaring investors!
Worldwide, wow is he good, and just in time for Halloween too!

[sneekula]

The truth is ....
Obama is scaring McCain!

[Dave Sinkula]

According to one of the goofball female representatives from Minnesota all Liberals are anti-American!

http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2008/10/michele_bachman_7.php

Would you care to highlight that passage?

MSNBC "HARDBALL WITH CHRIS MATTHEWS" INTERVIEW WITH REP. MICHELE BACHMANN (R-MN) INTERVIEWER: CHRIS MATTHEWS
5:02 P.M. EDT, FRIDAY, OCTOBER 17, 2008
MR. MATTHEWS: Republican Congresswoman Michele Bachmann from Minnesota joins us right now.
Congresswoman, thank you very much for joining us. I want you to look at something from David Letterman last night. It concerned, well, Governor Palin's comments about Barack Obama.
(Begin videotaped segment.)
DAVID LETTERMAN: I think she's the one who says that Barack Obama pals around with terrorists. Has she, in fact, said that at rallies and stuff?
SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R-AZ, Republican presidential nominee): I don't -- yes. And he did.
(End videotaped segment.)
MR. MATTHEWS: Well, let's take a look now, Congresswoman, at the radio tape message that's going in a number of states right now, being put out by the Republicans and the John McCain campaign. It's called a robo call. You just pick up the phone and you hear this recording.
ANNOUNCER: (From audiotape.) Hello. I'm calling for John McCain and the RNC because you need to know that Barack Obama has worked closely with domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, whose organization bombed the U.S. Capitol, the Pentagon, a judge's home, and killed Americans. And Democrats will enact an extreme leftist agenda if they take control of Washington. Barack Obama and his Democratic allies lack the judgment to lead our country. This call was paid for by McCain-Palin 2008 and the Republican National Committee.
MR. MATTHEWS: Well, what do you make of that, Congresswoman, that what's called a robo call and what Senator McCain said last night on Letterman?
REP. BACHMANN: Well, I think it's fun to have a sense of humor right now. And especially last night on Letterman, I thought that John McCain was extremely funny.
As far as the robo calls go, I think that the Obama campaign is very worried, because Americans are just now starting to find out about Bill Ayers and about the questionable connection that Obama has with Bill Ayers. These are legitimate questions. And I think the Obama campaign has a right to be worried, because they don't want the American people to know about these connections.
MR. MATTHEWS: Let me talk to you. What do the connections mean to you, this connection you're talking about between the Democratic candidate for president and his connection back in the '90s with Bill Ayers, who was involved with the Weathermen group back in the '60s and early '70s, when he was eight years old? What is your concern about that?
REP. BACHMANN: I think it's devastating, because this is an unrepentant terrorist who says he wishes he would have bombed more people. Remember, this is a man who bombed the Pentagon and was happy to be bombing Americans as well. This is not a person that the president of the United States would want to be associated with.
Had John McCain been associated with Bill Ayers, it would have been a nightly story. It would have been everywhere. But the media's been kind of avoiding this story, and Barack Obama's been avoiding it too. He actually did start his state senate campaign in Bill Ayers' home, and Obama worked very closely with him on education matters -- very liberal, leftist agenda of education matters as well.
I think that it's important that the American people know that Barack Obama didn't have a mild association with Bill Ayers. He had a very strong association with Bill Ayers. Bill Ayers is not someone that the average American wants to see their president have an association with.
MR. MATTHEWS: Why is it of concern? What is wrong with it? Tell me what it tells you about Barack Obama. Does it say he's got a character problem? Does it say he has a problem with his patriotism? Just give me a term for it so we can put it in a category. Why do you care enough to bring this up at the end of this campaign? Why is it an important election eve issue?
REP. BACHMANN: I think it's important, Chris, because --
MR. MATTHEWS: I mean, we've got a lot of problems in this country. Why is this so important that it's being pushed out on telephone calls to all the key states now with two weeks to go?
REP. BACHMANN: It's important because we look at the collection of friends that Barack Obama has had over his life, and usually we associate with people who have similar ideas to us. And it seems that it calls into question what Barack Obama's true beliefs and values and thoughts are -- his attitudes, values and beliefs with Jeremiah Wright on his view of the United States --
MR. MATTHEWS: Okay --
REP. BACHMANN: -- which is negative; Bill Ayers, his negative view of the United States. We've seen one friend after another. It calls into question his judgment, but also what is it that Barack Obama really believes? And we know that he's the most liberal senator in the United States Senate, and that's just after one year after being there. He's the most liberal. Joe Biden is the third most liberal. You've got Harry Reid who's liberal, Nancy Pelosi who's liberal.
MR. MATTHEWS: Right. What's the connection?
REP. BACHMANN: You have a troika of the most leftist administration in the history of our country.
MR. MATTHEWS: If you have liberal views, does that mean you have anti-American views? What's the connection? I don't get the connection. What's the connection between liberal and leftist and anti-American?
REP. BACHMANN: Anti-American is the point, because --
MR. MATTHEWS: I mean, if you're liberal, are you anti-American?
REP. BACHMANN: Well, the liberals that are Jeremiah Wright and that are Bill Ayers, they're over-the-top anti-American. And that's the question that Americans have. Remember, it was Michelle Obama who said she's only recently proud of her country. And so these are very anti-American views.
MR. MATTHEWS: Okay.
REP. BACHMANN: That's not the way that most Americans feel about our country. Most Americans, Chris, are wild about America, and they're very concerned to have a president who doesn't share those values.
MR. MATTHEWS: Okay, let's take a look at Governor Palin, because she said something very much like what you just said. Let's hear Governor Palin on the very same topic of the connection between Barack Obama and Bill Ayers and what that tells you about his view of America. Let's hear.
ALASKA GOVERNOR SARAH PALIN (Republican vice presidential nominee): (From videotape.) Our opponent is someone who sees America as imperfect enough to pal around with terrorists who targeted their own country? (Chorus of boos.)
MR. MATTHEWS: So you think that's a fair critique of Barack Obama, that his view of America is so -- that America is so imperfect that he pals around with terrorists. You think that's a fair comment.
REP. BACHMANN: It's a fair comment, because Barack Obama does have a close association with Bill Ayers. It's one that the American people have a right to have some answers to. And Barack Obama still hasn't come clean on his relationship with Bill Ayers. It's been under the radar, and only recently has it been coming out. And people need to know.
MR. MATTHEWS: So this is a character issue. You believe that Barack Obama may -- you're suspicious because of this relationship -- may have anti-American views. Otherwise it's probably irrelevant to this discussion.
REP. BACHMANN: Absolutely.
MR. MATTHEWS: So you believe it brings into --
REP. BACHMANN: I absolutely --
MR. MATTHEWS: So you believe that Barack Obama may have anti- American views.
REP. BACHMANN: Absolutely. I'm very concerned that he may have anti-American views. That's what the American people are concerned about. That's why they want to know what his answers are. That's why Joe the plumber has figured so highly in the last few days --
MR. MATTHEWS: Okay. I'm not going to get off this.
REP. BACHMANN: -- because Joe the plumber asked a question that a lot of Americans want to know.
MR. MATTHEWS: Sarah Palin was around today talking about pro- American parts of America, and assuming there's other non-parts of the country. What parts of America would you say are anti-American? What parts of this country?
REP. BACHMANN: Well, I would say that people who hold anti- American views. I don't think it's geography. I think it's people who don't like America, who detest America. And on college campuses, a Ward Churchill, another college campus, a Bill Ayers, you find people who hate America. And unfortunately, some of these people have positions teaching in institutions of higher learning. But you'll find them in all walks of life all throughout America.
MR. MATTHEWS: What about people like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, the liberals you were mentioning a moment ago? Where would you put them? Would you consider them anti-American as well?
REP. BACHMANN: I would consider them to have --
MR. MATTHEWS: Are they anti-American?
REP. BACHMANN: -- far leftist views. I'm not going to say that they're anti-American or pro-American.
MR. MATTHEWS: The speaker of the House is --
REP. BACHMANN: I will say the speaker --
MR. MATTHEWS: Well, you were putting them together. You put three words together -- liberal, leftist and anti-American. How do they all fit together, those three terms -- liberal, leftist and anti- American?
REP. BACHMANN: Well, that's a good descriptor for Jeremiah Wright. It's a perfect descriptor for Bill Ayers. And those are friends and people that Obama has pointed to as his mentors. In his book, Barack Obama had pointed to Jeremiah Wright as one of his mentors, and also Father Pfleger as one of his mentors. Two of the three mentors are Father Pfleger and Jeremiah Wright. Now, these are very strange, anti-American mentors.
MR. MATTHEWS: Right. This --
REP. BACHMANN: If people like that were John McCain's mentors, you'd be all over John McCain.
MR. MATTHEWS: Well, let me ask you this. This country is roughly divided now over the last -- all our lifetimes between Republicans and Democrats and liberals and conservatives. Maybe 30 percent of the country, 30 to 40 percent, is conservative, and self- described -- people tell you what they are -- and 30-some percent are liberals. Do you think those 30 percent liberals are anti-American? The 30 percent of this country that calls itself liberals, are they anti-American?
REP. BACHMANN: I think the people that Barack Obama has been associating with are anti-American, by and large, the people who are radical leftists. That's the real question about Barack Obama -- Saul Alinsky, one of his teachers, you might say, out of the Chicago area; Tony Rezko, who is an associate also.
MR. MATTHEWS: He's a leftist? I thought he was a business guy.
REP. BACHMANN: These are very concerning figures that are in Barack Obama's past.
MR. MATTHEWS: I thought Tony Rezko was some business guy. I didn't know he was a leftist, anti-American guy.
REP. BACHMANN: Yeah, that's troubling too. Well, that's troubling too. Take a look at these associations, Chris, and add them all up --
MR. MATTHEWS: Well, let me --
REP. BACHMANN: -- and this is the totality of the package that Barack Obama has been, in Sarah Palin's words, palling around with. These are his friends. These are his associates. Very troubling.
MR. MATTHEWS: How many Congress people, members of Congress, do you think are in that anti-American crowd you described? How many Congress people do you serve with? I mean, it's 435 members of Congress.
REP. BACHMANN: Right now --
MR. MATTHEWS: How many are anti-American in the Congress right now that you serve with?
REP. BACHMANN: You'd have to ask them, Chris. I'm focusing on Barack Obama and the people that he's been associating with. And I'm very worried about --
MR. MATTHEWS: But do you suspect that a lot of people you serve with --
REP. BACHMANN: -- their anti-American nature.
MR. MATTHEWS: Well, he's a United States senator from Illinois. He's one of the people you suspect as being anti-American. How many people in the Congress of the United States do you think are anti- American? You've already suspected Barack Obama. Is he alone, or are there others? How many do you suspect of your colleagues as being anti-American?
REP. BACHMANN: What I would say -- what I would say is that the news media should do a penetrating expose and take a look. I wish they would. I wish the American media would take a great look at the views of the people in Congress and find out, are they pro-America or anti-America? I think people would love to see an expose like that.
MR. MATTHEWS: Okay, thank you very much, U.S. Congresswoman Michele Bachmann of Minnesota.