2008 US Presidential Poll Part 2 - Page 8

[bumsfeld]

GrimJack, in the video did you see that nude chick on the beach?

[Colin Mac]

Christians against the Muslims, that explains your thinking well.

LOL, you don't know my thinking.

[sneekula]

McCain on the US Economy:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/JI23Dj02.html

[GrimJack]

... and she still looks soooo prrrrrrrrretty!

As one outsider I am confused, does Palin run against Obama? What happened to McCain?

That is the problem - McCain is older than me; has had numerous bouts with cancer; and will probably have a heart attack if he does not (heh,heh doe snot) learn to control his temper. So some of us are worried that he might not have chosen the best person to be one heart-beat away from the presidency.

[Ancient Dragon]

I would normally vote Republican, but this year I'm not. Why? Because McCain is just too damed old; I don't want a president who is almost 10 years older than me because 1) his health and 2) his mind. Both these issued makes it very likely that the vp will have to assume McCain's duties.

[Dave Sinkula]

Intentional or not, you're using the language of a shill.

I would normally vote Republican, but this year I'm not.

It's a meme to avoid at this stage of the political circus (see exhibits A, B, C).

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Thus we delve into the great fun of this campaign in part being Palin v Obama.

Why? Because McCain is just too damed old; I don't want a president who is almost 10 years older than me because 1) his health and 2) his mind. Both these issued makes it very likely that the vp will have to assume McCain's duties.

Could you please extrapolate on that? How do you weigh the Palin v Obama thing, then, if that is your primary consideration?

In consideration of the CinC, I'd first prefer someone with some experience with the military; absent that, I'd prefer someone on Day 1 to have more than zero exposure to the PDB (the following quote from here).

Following Roosevelt's death and Truman's ascension to the presidency, the need to keep vice presidents informed on national security issues became clear, and Congress made the vice president one of four statutory members of the National Security Council in 1949.

[GrimJack]

For the few, lone liberals here who need a little help getting through the right wing slash and burn politics to election day - try some of these drugs

[GrimJack]

I never thought I would say this but:

Free Sarah Palin
CNN's Campbell Brown says:

"Tonight I call on the McCain campaign to stop treating Sarah Palin like she is a delicate flower that will wilt at any moment," said Brown. "This woman is from Alaska for crying out loud. She is strong. She is tough. She is confident. And you claim she is ready to be one heart beat away form the presidency. If that is the case, then end this chauvinistic treatment of her now. Allow her to show her stuff. Allow her to face down those pesky reporters... Let her have a real news conference with real questions. By treating Sarah Palin different from the other candidates in this race, you are not showing her the respect she deserves. Free Sarah Palin. Free her from the chauvinistic chain you are binding her with. Sexism in this campaign must come to an end. Sarah Palin has just as much a right to be a real candidate in this race as the men do. So let her act like one."

[Dave Sinkula]

I never thought I would say this but:

Free Sarah Palin
CNN's Campbell Brown says:

Heh. Good one.

Free Biden? Naw. Obama already has enough trouble. :icon_razz:

[sneekula]

What America really needs!

[Dave Sinkula]

McCain is just too damed old; I don't want a president who is almost 10 years older than me because 1) his health

Heh. :icon_cheesygrin:

and 2) his mind. Both these issued makes it very likely that the vp will have to assume McCain's duties.

From The "If John McCain Had Said This, It Would Be Considered A Senility Moment" Files

Ah, the political silly season.

[Ancient Dragon]

"After we breached the abdominal wall to take numerous tissue samples from his small intestine, it was clear the senator was in perfect health for his age.

"for his age" is the operative phrase. That doesn't mean he is without serious health issues.

[Dave Sinkula]

I've been reading up quite a bit on melanoma recently, and I have a better understanding of what that entails. So I do know of what you speak.

[zandiago]

I would normally vote Republican, but this year I'm not. Why? Because McCain is just too damed old; I don't want a president who is almost 10 years older than me because 1) his health and 2) his mind. Both these issued makes it very likely that the vp will have to assume McCain's duties.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKVPay1eBH8&feature=user

[Ene Uran]

I doubt that Palin would/could be any worse than Bush.

[Dave Sinkula]

Snarks aside, spin aside, can anyone tell me something positive about Obama that is 'in concrete' and 'has a paper trail'? Not 'hope' and 'change', but anything real?

[edit]And I consider as snarky and/or spin any attempt to reverse the question and/or distract from it.

[sneekula]

McCain has fun with Bill's wife:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnLCK3knuY8&NR=1

[sneekula]

John McCain finally clear on the US economy:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=186055&title=mccain-returns-to-washington

[ZZucker]

If you missed Palin's interview where she is pushing McCain as "The Maverik" and can't come up with even one lousy example, here is some of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDdR7YqWZ8s&feature=user

Also has a great train collision in it.

[Lardmeister]

Well, looks like McCain clearly won the debate last night. Good showing John!

I was just a little surprised when he said that we won the war in Iraq, and hinted that we had tortured prisoners in the past.

He also wants to build a huge number of nuclear power plants by 2030, even though nobody will lend you money for such a money losing project.

[GrimJack]

Here is the Christian response to Obama - he really gets going there towards the end. A loving Christian talks about politics.

[Dave Sinkula]

Heh. I didn't even make it through the whole thing the first couple times it made its rounds.

There was a non-YouTube version, but someone I know couldn't get to it due to some network filtering.

[vegaseat]

Heh. I didn't even make it through the whole thing the first couple times it made its rounds.

There was a non-YouTube version, but someone I know couldn't get to it due to some network filtering.

I couldn't get all the way through it either. This strange man of the cloth keeps repeating about five rather nasty smears over and over. A true Christian? Now I know what the poor folks feel in Iran, when they are forced to listen to their Mullahs.

Luckily, we still have separation of church and state. Let's keep it that way!

[Ancient Dragon]

Oh you should have listened to the whole thing! He made a lot of sense (to me) -- if the news media wants to dig up the dirt on Sara Palin's daughter and post it all over the net then that opens the can of worms to dig up the dirt about anyone, political or not. I liked the premise of his speech.

He is right about HO's mother -- she was white trash. But we can't blame HO for the sins of his parents.

[Aia]

Luckily, we still have separation of church and state. Let's keep it that way!

If there's separation of church and state, how come there's so much issue with politics and religion? It never fails, that campaigns (or anything political) has to bring religion to the mist.

[Dave Sinkula]

Oh you should have listened to the whole thing! He made a lot of sense (to me) -- if the news media wants to dig up the dirt on Sara Palin's daughter and post it all over the net then that opens the can of worms to dig up the dirt about anyone, political or not. I liked the premise of his speech.

He is right about HO's mother -- she was white trash. But we can't blame HO for the sins of his parents.

Sarah Palin's daughter is running for president?

[Ancient Dragon]

I suspect you completely missed the whole point of that video. He (Manning?) said the press should leave Bristal out of her mother's politics. If the press is going to talk about Bristol Palin then they have to talk about everyone else's family black sheep, who also have nothing to do with anyone's political goals. And I wholeheartedly agree with that statement.

[twomers]

>> He is right about HO's mother -- she was white trash. But we can't blame HO for the sins of his parents.
Who's HO?

[Dave Sinkula]

they have to talk about everyone else's family black sheep, who also have nothing to do with anyone's political goals. And I wholeheartedly agree with that statement.

http://helpobamasbrother.org/

[Ancient Dragon]

http://helpobamasbrother.org/

So what? Barack Obama had nothing to do with where his siblings were born. Its very possible Barack wants nothing to do with those people. As for that link, maybe George doesn't want any help -- he may be perfectly happy where he is.