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Hello.
I hope someone can help. Apple can't.
Expose' intermittently just stops working sometimes. It may happen after a pop under occurs, but I can't pin it down to that. Apple (tier one) wanted to do an 'Archive & Install of course. Instead they said to switch to test user. Very inconvenient as I need to manually redo address book and various and sundry items to carry on using 'test' user until it happens again, which has no rhyme or reason yet.
Also when using the lower right hot corner to clear my desktop with Expose', it sometimes crashes my dock. Dock comes right back though. Their is no plist for Expose', as I looked to toss it out.

Another strange thing is that trying to make a capital C sometimes doesn't work. I get nothing but an error sound and have to use the Caps lock to get a C. Right now, as most often, it's working.

Any thoughts will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Dan
eMac 1GHz 1024 RAM OS X3.8 Apple Pro Keyboard

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1) The purpose of a 'test user' is to determine if this problem is system-wide, or relegated entirely to your 'normal' user.

2) What do the logs say about the Dock crash?

3) in what apps doesn't Shift-C work? All apps? This is one place where using a 'test user' is quite helpful.

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have you tried to repare your computer with Disk Firstaid it uasly takes care of most problems if you need to, you could get disk warrior it is a repare utility that fixes all issues. first try diskfirst aid go in to applications/Utilities diskfirst aid

repare permissions if that doesent stop it then load the install os X CD in the computer when it gets to the menu load disk utility from the CD
then repare the HD if it fails then get Diskwarrior (p.s nortian actually causes more problems in the end and slows down the computer)

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1) The purpose of a 'test user' is to determine if this problem is system-wide, or relegated entirely to your 'normal' user.

2) What do the logs say about the Dock crash?

3) in what apps doesn't Shift-C work? All apps? This is one place where using a 'test user' is quite helpful.

Thanks for the reply and sorry for the delay on my side of replying back. Holidays and my father put in the hospital (he's fine now.) have kept me at bay for a bit.

As for the Shift 'c' not working, it happens whenever typing. Not sure if it's all apps, but all that I recall typing in. C . Worked there didn't it? Just intermittent. Probably something in the keyboard itself, either debris or electronic. Though odd that Shift any other key works fine all the time.

Maybe Disk Warrior fixed Expose'. But it works again. Here's the last of many reports on the dock crashing.
May be more than you need, but it's all Greek to me in the crash logs.

Host Name: Macintosh.local
Date/Time: 2006-01-04 13:45:01 -0500
OS Version: 10.3.8 (Build 7U16)
Report Version: 2

Command: Dock
Path: /System/Library/CoreServices/Dock.app/Contents/MacOS/Dock
Version: 1.2 (1.2)
PID: 338
Thread: 0

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000020

Thread 0 Crashed:
0 com.apple.CoreGraphics 0x935dcaf8 _CGSSynchronizeWindow + 0x4c
1 com.apple.CoreGraphics 0x935d7760 _CGSLockWindow + 0x114
2 com.apple.CoreGraphics 0x935df550 CGSDeviceLock + 0xf0
3 libRIP.A.dylib 0x91b86838 ripd_Lock + 0x34
4 libRIP.A.dylib 0x91b8512c ripl_BltShape + 0x200
5 libRIP.A.dylib 0x91b845e0 ripc_Render + 0x18c
6 libRIP.A.dylib 0x91b87a0c ripc_DrawRects + 0x21c
7 com.apple.CoreGraphics 0x935f00bc __CGContextDrawRects + 0xe0
8 com.apple.CoreGraphics 0x93602e80 CGContextFillRects + 0x9c
9 com.apple.CoreGraphics 0x93607774 CGContextFillRect + 0x20
10 com.apple.dock 0x0002f97c 0x1000 + 0x2e97c
11 com.apple.dock 0x0002ee10 0x1000 + 0x2de10
12 com.apple.dock 0x0002ea34 0x1000 + 0x2da34
13 com.apple.dock 0x0002e8fc 0x1000 + 0x2d8fc
14 com.apple.dock 0x0002fb38 0x1000 + 0x2eb38
15 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x901945f8 __CFRunLoopDoTimer + 0xf4
16 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x90191958 __CFRunLoopRun + 0x5c8
17 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x90195e6c CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 0x148
18 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x901ff32c CFRunLoopRun + 0x34
19 com.apple.dock 0x0000e568 0x1000 + 0xd568
20 com.apple.dock 0x0000e290 0x1000 + 0xd290
21 com.apple.dock 0x0000e104 0x1000 + 0xd104

Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90016f48 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 0x8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000e790 _pthread_cond_wait + 0x270
2 com.apple.dock 0x0000ab9c 0x1000 + 0x9b9c
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900246e8 _pthread_body + 0x28

PPC Thread State:
srr0: 0x935dcaf8 srr1: 0x0200f030 vrsave: 0x00000000
cr: 0x44084242 xer: 0x20000007 lr: 0x935dcabc ctr: 0x90002020
r0: 0x00000000 r1: 0xbfffea30 r2: 0x00000000 r3: 0x0032be40
r4: 0x00380c10 r5: 0x00000001 r6: 0x00318610 r7: 0xbfffeda0
r8: 0x00000005 r9: 0xbfffeea0 r10: 0x9362247c r11: 0xa35d1400
r12: 0x90002020 r13: 0x0032be40 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000
r16: 0x00000001 r17: 0x003507b0 r18: 0xbffff020 r19: 0x00000006
r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x00000000 r22: 0x00000000 r23: 0xbfffeda0
r24: 0x0032be40 r25: 0x0038fa40 r26: 0x0032be40 r27: 0x00000001
r28: 0x00380c10 r29: 0x00380c10 r30: 0x00000001 r31: 0x935dcabc

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0x97510000 - 0x97518fff libbsm.dylib /usr/lib/libbsm.dylib

If you see anything in here that would need attention, I'd sure appreciate your notice of such.
Thanks again for the prompt reply.
Hope the holidays were good to you and yours.
Dan

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have you tried to repare your computer with Disk Firstaid it uasly takes care of most problems if you need to, you could get disk warrior it is a repare utility that fixes all issues. first try diskfirst aid go in to applications/Utilities diskfirst aid

repare permissions if that doesent stop it then load the install os X CD in the computer when it gets to the menu load disk utility from the CD
then repare the HD if it fails then get Diskwarrior (p.s nortian actually causes more problems in the end and slows down the computer)

Thank you for your reply.
I rarely use the disc for disk repair of Apple's. But I did buy Diskwarrior a couple years back. I run it every time I 'graph' the system and it shows 2% or more is not right. I run MacJanitor almost daily and whenever RAM is down to a minimum from using Photoshop on many large files.

But all is well again beyond the intermittent need to use the caps key to make a capital C.

Thanks for your time and information.
Dan

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well glad i could help in a small way

from the looks of the logs
you had some core graphics problems

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Do you use Dock magnification or Dock hiding?

I have it set to magnification. About midrange.
As I noted above, that hot corner is bottom right. Also my dock is extended to it's limits. Don't know if that matters.

Thanks,
Dan

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I stayed with 'test' user for a few days and nothing happened. But in my user mode that could (not) happen as well.

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Maybe the core graphics were repaired with Disk Warrior?

Doubtful.

So, this isssue is still plaguing you? If so, I suggest ditching the Dock cache and the Dock plist. Of course, be forewarned that this will reset your Dock to the defaults.

~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.dock.plist

And

/Library/Caches/com.apple.dock.iconcache.501

(assuming that you are the first admin user on the box and have the UID 501)

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Doubtful.

So, this isssue is still plaguing you? If so, I suggest ditching the Dock cache and the Dock plist. Of course, be forewarned that this will reset your Dock to the defaults.

~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.dock.plist

And

/Library/Caches/com.apple.dock.iconcache.501

(assuming that you are the first admin user on the box and have the UID 501)

Both the shift C (worked that time again, but quit working last night for awhile) and the dock crashed last night.
I just ran two utilities to clear/clean caches and multitudes of other tasks.
I'll try the dock plist. Not sure why I hadn't thought of that. Thanks.
I get the feeling that the shift c issue is probably dust or debris. I'll get brave and basically take the keyboard apart to clean all out. My girlfriends mouse on her PC was acting wildly the other day and I went to hook one of my mice (unsuccessfully, as I didn't have the proper adapter) to her machine. I found a lot of dust around her connector, cleaned it and all is back to normal.
Thanks again,
Dan

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Hi,

Just here for one post - but I just had problems with Expose crashing (10.3.9) with all the windows displayed and I fixed it by rebooting the dock:

$ killall Dock

(you'll have to ssh in your Mac because unless you have a Terminal.app window open and can run the command in miniature (that window being expose'd), you probably can't open a new terminal window)

-matt

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