owenbear

Hi again,

Well I tried the PSU (a Jeantech 'Arctic' 600w Modular cable thingy by the way) using the info above, in an old DELL I have. But it won't boot using the PSU I've been asking about. If it's because of the P4 cable off of 'half the P8(?) cable (as above - I don't know).
Anyway,
After doing some more reading about this PSU I think I may just give up on it...
Every review or comments about Jeantech power supplies are not very good and don't fill me with confidence so I think I'll just play it safe and not risk using it.
The reason I did ask in the first place is that it 'looks' a nice PSU with modular power cables (which I believe can aid cooling) and also a higher output in watts (600w) than any of the PSU's in my other PC's.
I wanted to have all the best parts in 1 PC but the best PC I have works, so maybe I should leave it be...
Still - thanks for the advice, as always it is much appreciated.

OwenBear

Well after finding this, I'm now unsure again whether to keep trying to get it working...
[url]http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/stress-test,review-1362-20.html[/url]
??

owenbear

Thanks for the reply caperjack.
I'll let you know if it works.

Thanks.

owenbear

Thanks, I'll give try that then...

OwenBear.

P.S. I'll let you know if it works!

Thanks again.

owenbear

Hi Jingda,

I've followed the advice you've given me above but am still getting the same problem.
As the PC works with 'Mobile' broadband, I'm beginning to think that some of the settings on the PC may have been altered before I was given it.
I suspect some services may have been changed or disabled. Is their any way I can find which services are needed to enable the PC to use a router?
Would it be worth doing a clean install of windows to see if this cures the problem or is it a bit to soon for that?

Thanks,

OwenBear

owenbear

Hi Caperjack,

Thanks for the info, much appreciated.

You're response made me wonder, could I plug in a P4 extension cable into 4 pins of the 12v 8 pin cable (P8?) and get the same result? The P4 extension cable does fit (I've just checked).
I thought I'd ask your opinion before trying it! I presume the voltage is same on this also.
Again, thanks for the reply.

OwenBear

owenbear Light Poster

Hi all,

I've been given a modular PSU that has a cable missing.
Namely the 4 pin ATX +12 volt power cable - the one which plugs in next to the CPU.

I've not been able to find a replacement (all I can find are extension cables).
If I make up my own cable from spare PSU's I have is there any chance of causing damage to the PC or the PSU itself?

For instance if the wires are of a different diameter or resistance than the original cable.

Any information you can give is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

OwenBear

owenbear

Hi,

The broadband is connected to a router via ethernet cable.
Other PC's and an Xbox connect fine using this router.
The PC in question works using a Mobile Broadband dongle, but not using a wireless network card or using an ethernet cable (ie while trying to use the router).

owenbear Light Poster

Hi all,

I can't get this PC to connect to the 'net using a NIC card or the onboard LAN.

Some info...

Motherboard - Gigabyte K8 VT800
CPU - Athlon AMD 64 3000+ 'Newcastle' - 2000Mhz
RAM - 2x 1Gb DDR PC3200
HD- 400GB IDE
GFX - NVidia 7600 GS 256 DDR3

OS - Windows XP SP3.

I'm confused about this problem. So if anyone can help.........

I've not had this PC long, and have only used it online with mobile broadband - a 'dongle'.
Using the dongle the internet worked fine.

The problem started after I got ''true' broadband at my house.

When I try to connect this PC using an Ethernet cable - I get the response 'Acquiring IP Address', and the connection gets no further.

In Device Manager there seems to be no problems.

If I install a wireless NIC card (and drivers), I get the same result - 'Acquiring IP Address'.
But with the wireless card fitted, in Device Manager I see 'No Network Controller Drivers'.

Does anyone have any idea what could be the problem?

Cheers,

OwenBear.

owenbear

OK - I did as you advised and Windows is now installed succesfully and is up and running.

Thank you for your assistance Jingda.

Regards,

OwenBear

owenbear

Thanks for the reply.

The HDD's I tried were either not recognised or just showed 'Loading Windows' with a white load bar filling up then restarting the machine.

I'll try the spare HDD's I've got as slave drives then (hopefully) re-format them and try the E-Machines restore CD's with the Imperial G motherboard.

OwenBear

owenbear Light Poster

Hullo,

I've just been given a second hand/pre-owned Motherboard/CPU.
And as it is potentially better than the one my daughter has I'd like to try and get it up and running.

Some info:-

Motherboard - Imperial G 20020828 (this is the only info I can find on the board).
CPU - P4 2.4Ghz / 533FSB socket 478.
RAM - 1GB PC2700 in two 512Mb sticks.
GPU - AGP slot / None fitted yet.
HDD - None yet.

The board came with only the CPU fitted - no case, no PSU, no HDD.
I have loads of spare parts that will suit - PSU's, cases, HDD's RAM etc.
However, as it came with no HDD when I try to boot it with a HDD it wont boot to windows.
I've tried it with three different HDD's up to now but without success.

Unfortunately all the HDD's I have are from other machines (though they boot XP on other PC's)so I suspect this is what's causing the problem.

I think the motherboard is from an 'E-Machines' PC.
I have a couple of original 'E-Machines' restore CD's from another PC (windows XP).
Is it worth trying to 're-install' one of the HDD's using these CD's.
I don't want to overwrite a HD that works on my daughters current PC unless I'm pretty sure of success. Her PC was pre-owned and has no Windows XP CD with it.

Thanks,

OwenBear

owenbear

OK thanks for the info guys - much appreciated.

I'm presuming since none of you said any different I will notice a speed increase IF I can get it to work.

@ crunchie - It's being a paperweight at the moment anyway so it's only gonna give me some experience in bulding PC's!

@ jac0b - Well your answer gives me a bit of hope anyhow! And I wil be patient!

A couple more questions....

Should I flash the 1004 BIOS? There are later BIOS's for this board - so would a later one work? Or should I just stick with the 1004?

P.S I got the P4 1.7 CPU off the heatsink by heating it up with a hairdrier (the CPU slid off once it was warm)!

Thanks again for your replies,

OwenBear.

owenbear

OK, thanks for the info. I guess I'm not gonna bother changing these CPU's until I have a bit more experience!

Cheers

OwenBear.

owenbear

[QUOTE=owenbear;1603089]Hullo again,

After being given even more old PC bits I now have questions about switching CPU's.

I've tried swapping my old socket 478 1.7Ghz for a P4 2.5Ghz (socket 478).

The motherboard is an ASUS P4B-533VM.

And here begin the problems...(and the questions)!

1) After the swap the PC gets to BIOS then freezes, doesn't accept any keyboard input then restarts and repeats the above.

I've realised the P4 1.7 is 1.75 volts while the P4 2.5 is 1.5 volts (also the wattage is different). Is this the problem or should the motherboard adjust for this?

2) When I removed the heatsink from the 1.7 the CPU came with it and is stuck to the heatsink. Now I cannot reinstall it to it's 'home' motherboard. How can I get the CPU off the heatsink without damaging it. It looks like it's stuck using thermal tape or something. There is a black square around the edges of the CPU which I think is the tape.

3) Should this CPU work in this board anyway?

As always any help/information is greatly appreciated.

OwenBear

More info.

Mother board is: P4B-533VM socket 478
CPU (was) : P4 1.7Ghz L1 8kb. L2 256kb swapping to P4 2.5Ghz L1 8kb. L2 512kb
GFX Card : NVidia 6600GT 128MB DDR3
RAM : 128MB DDR PC2100 (slot 1)
: 512MB DDR PC2300 (slot 2)
HDD : 80GB Western Digital IDE
OS : Windows XP Pro SP2[/QUOTE]

From what I can find on Google the CPU swap 'should' ...

owenbear Light Poster

Hullo again,

After being given even more old PC bits I now have questions about switching CPU's.

I've tried swapping my old socket 478 1.7Ghz for a P4 2.5Ghz (socket 478).

The motherboard is an ASUS P4B-533VM.

And here begin the problems...(and the questions)!

1) After the swap the PC gets to BIOS then freezes, doesn't accept any keyboard input then restarts and repeats the above.

I've realised the P4 1.7 is 1.75 volts while the P4 2.5 is 1.5 volts (also the wattage is different). Is this the problem or should the motherboard adjust for this?

2) When I removed the heatsink from the 1.7 the CPU came with it and is stuck to the heatsink. Now I cannot reinstall it to it's 'home' motherboard. How can I get the CPU off the heatsink without damaging it. It looks like it's stuck using thermal tape or something. There is a black square around the edges of the CPU which I think is the tape.

3) Should this CPU work in this board anyway?

As always any help/information is greatly appreciated.

OwenBear

More info.

Mother board is: P4B-533VM socket 478
CPU (was) : P4 1.7Ghz L1 8kb. L2 256kb swapping to P4 2.5Ghz L1 8kb. L2 512kb
GFX Card : NVidia 6600GT 128MB DDR3
RAM : 128MB DDR PC2100 (slot 1)
: 512MB DDR PC2300 (slot 2)
HDD : 80GB Western Digital IDE
OS : Windows XP Pro SP2

owenbear Light Poster

Hi,

I've recently been given a load of parts and some of the RAM sticks included have heatsinks on them.
I'm talking about flat, aluminium shields, in to parts which encase virtually the whole stick (not the 'spiky' individual chip cooling type).
So anyway, I have several spare of these heatsinks and wondered if it would be worth fitting them to the RAM I have installed that don't have these currently fitted.

So...

1) Do these type of heatsinks work?
2) Will I need a special adhesive to attach them to the RAM. It looks like they have been fitted using some type of double sided tape.
3) Could I simply use something like superglue around the edges of the aluminium plate and attach them that way.

Thanks as always.

OwenBear.

Oh - These heatsinks might be copper.

owenbear

OK. I think maybe I'm going to wait a while before I try the other CPU. I don't fancy damaging this PC. I've only just got it working to my satisfaction and am enjoying the boost in speed over my old PC.
And I REALLY don't want to have to go back to that thing.

Thanks for the info,

OwenBear

owenbear

Thanks jacOb,

1) Well I know I always earth myself before touching any parts.

I guess I've gotta hope I'm lucky hey?
I was lucky enough to be given the parts so I hope my luck carries on!

2) So I guess this is similar to 1. I know I won't be able to help myself but to try it so I hope my luck holds out.

Also, I really appreciate all the info about how to store parts too...

OwenBear

owenbear Light Poster

Hi,

I've recently been given a PC with a load of parts.
So I have a spare CPU which (I think) is 200Mhz faster than the CPU currently installed.
However I'm not sure if the spare CPU works.
So - a few questions.

1) If a CPU is mishandled is it likely to be damaged? I'm not talking about bent pins etc, just the fact that it's been touched on the chip itself and may have been in contact with other parts. DIMM's and also the CMOS battery.

2) If the CPU is damaged will installing it damage the motherboard or any other parts? Can I try it and if it doesn't work just re-fit the other CPU?

As always, any help greatly appreciated.
Thanks,

OwenBear

owenbear Light Poster

Hi all,

Another OwenBear question about older technology.

I've just been given a Gigabyte GA-K8vt800 socket 754 motherboard with loads of bits.
Seeing as this is better (I hope) than my P4 1.7 (socket 478) current set-up I'd like to try and optimize all the parts I've got.

So - to start...

Which is the best CPU?
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ or AMD Athlon 3400+.

Currently I've got the system working with 2GB of DDR400 RAM and the 2000Mhz 3000+ CPU.
This is the CPU that came fitted in the motherboard.
Will I see any gains if I install the 3400+ CPU?
The 3000+ is a 'Newcastle' chip with 512kb L2 cache.

I 'think' the 3400+ CPU has a 1024Kb L2 cache with a clock speed of 2200Mhz. But from what I can see on Google there are two versions of this CPU (as there is with the 3000+).

I better add I've never changed a CPU before so I'm a bit shy of trying it unless it's going to be worth it.

So would I see any appreciable difference if I fitted the 3400+ CPU.

Sorry if I'm not too clear on the info.

As usual any help is greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

OwenBear

owenbear

Thanks for the info.

OwenBear

owenbear Light Poster

Hiya all,

I've just got my hands on a Jeantech PSU.
It's not in the box and has no insttuctions so I hope someone can help.

There's a 3 position switch just below the on/off button labelled HAL.

Can anyone tell me which setting I should have it on?

Maybe I should add I'm from England which runs 240V.

Thanks,

OwenBear.

owenbear

OK - thanks for the prompt answer.

I was getting myself tied in knots trying to get answers about PSU's!

I'm confused about power rails etc..

OwenBear

owenbear Light Poster

Hey all,

This is a bit of a theoretical question.

If my PSU puts out x amount and I wanted to fit a GFX card which would take more power than the system uses in total would it help if I disabled an unused piece of hardware?

ie. If I disabled a floppy drive (physically from the PSU) would the power saved be available to a different piece of hardware?

Thanks for any help.

OwenBear

owenbear

OK- I'll be using the 7600 GS then.

Thanks for the prompt answers.

Cheers,

OwenBear.

owenbear Light Poster

Hi all,

   I guess this is old tech but I'd still appreciate any answer...

Can anyone tell me which is the best GFX card between the following...

A NVidia GeForce 6600GT 128MB DDR2 v an NVidia GeForce 7600GS 256MB DDR3.

I've tried Googling this question but cant find any satisfactory answer.

Again - Sorry about asking about old technology but if someone can help me with this it'll make my day...

Cheers.....

OwenBear.

owenbear

I'm getting no beeeeeeeeepppp ;).

Originally it was making the monitor power light flash on and off.
Since resetting the CMOS..
The monitor light stops flashing.
So at the moment when I power on.

Power pack + fan works.
CPU fan works.

Also I've now fitted
512Mb ddr RAM.
Still nothing on monitor screen though.

Currently I've got the monitor attached to the on-board GFx.

Do I need a HDD fitted to get to BIOS screen?

Without a CMOS battery my old(er) PC would still get to BIOS.

What do I need fitted in the Motherboard to get to the BIOS screen then?

Cheers.......OwenBear

owenbear

Sorry all, I guess I asked the wrong question and didn't make myself too clear.

At the moment I'm trying to work out if the above Motherboard is still working.
A while back I got an Nvidia 7600Gs 256Mb ddr3 gfx card and a 1Gb ddr400 memory stick and when I put them in the motherboard the PC failed.

I was then given an old P4 asus p4b533Vm abd installed the gfx, memory and HDD into that and it works fine.

Since then I found out about resetting the CMOS jumpers.

Anyway, I'm trying to get the AsRock p4i65g mobo to work again which is why I was asking about the POST info.

Currently the AsRock P4i65g mobo has a P4 2.3ghz celeron fitted, well, all thats missing from the motherboard is memory, HDD, CMOS battery and GFX card.

What I want to know is should I see any info when I turn it on when it's connected to a monitor?

When i switch it on after resetting the CMOS jumper, the CPU and power fans both work as does the LED on the front of the case.
What I'm basically looking for is the BIOS screen - what parts do I need fitted into the motherboard to see this?
Do I need the HDD and memory fitted?
Any help is greatly appreciated. I know this is a really old motherboard etc but if I can get it working it'll be better than what I'm currently using.

Thanks - OwenBear ...

owenbear Light Poster

Hi all,

I guess this is a pretty basic question about an old motherboard but anyway...

The motherboard is a P4i65G.

What I'd like to know is about POST info.
Should I see a BIOS screen if a motherboard is OK?
Or do I need to hit the DEL button?

I'm really new to learning about PC's and despite 'googling' the above question I can't get any answers...

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
OwenBear

owenbear

OK thanks for the prompt reply.
I guess I should just leave it alone. It's just having these larger memory sticks around that caused me to ask.
I guess we'll get along with what we've got until we learn a bit more!

Thanks again!

OwenBear