Global Warming or NONE LIKE IT HOT!
Just thought that since this is such a big topid these days and that there are so many threads that have really gotten on to this topic one way or another i should start a dedicated thread on Global warming and what you all think of it.
As i have said on many occasions i have said that i am all for caring for our enviroment and doing our bit to keep the planet in a good condition but that i think this whole global warming nonsense that we have swallowed is BS. I think that even if Global warming was a reality humans are not having as big an impact as all the Greens are trying to tell us.
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well said. The climate has been changing for billions of years. Compared to other interglacial periods the climate at the moment is actually rather stable, so taking the very long term view humans may actually stabilise the climate (if you use the same kind of logic the greens use, and consider human activity the sole cause for everything that's different from the past), helping prevent the onset of the inevitable next ice age.
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I just don't think that there is enough evidence that the planet is heating up. I think that the main motivation behind alot of it is money. There is money to be made of the movies about it. Money to be made of the "Green Solutions". Money to be made off Carbon Trading. Al Gore by the way has invested in all of these things.
Im not saying that all the Greens are simply out to make money either. There are definatly people out there who simply believe everything they are told when it comes to the enviroment but alot of the big Anti-global warming activists like Al Gore are just in it to make money.
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I agree that global warming is natural but i do believe that mankind is playing a part in it to a small extent
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I agree that global warming is natural but i do believe that mankind is playing a part in it to a small extent
Nicely worded, I think mankind's contribution is about 1%. The sun's often large fluctuations in energy output has never been incorporated into the computer models of the global warming effect. That would have made the calculations too complex!
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OMG [sarcasm]You all are just jealous that you didn't get the Nobel Peace Price like Al Gore did the other day :) [/sarcasm]
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In these "global warming" rants, I never see (or hear) anyone mention that the polar ice caps on Mars are shrinking. Sort of looks like either the little green men are the cause of it all or maybe part (a large part) is natural and not a result of anything humans are doing. Whether we can do anything to fix it remains to be seen, but the least we can do is to stop Al Gore from flying all over the world on private jets.
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Actually the scientists that are trying to make money off this have an explanation for that one as well. Solar winds are throwing dust up into the atmostphere of mars and therefore causing a greenhouse effect on it. It sounds like BS to me but apparently that was enough evidence needed to disregard it completely.
What ever happend to the holes in the ozone and Global cooling?
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That's interesting, I've not heard that before. However, wouldn't it be logical to presume that the same solar wind that is hitting Mars is also hitting Earth (only more so since the Earth is both closer and larger). The conclusion is still the same! At least part of any global warming is due to natural causes. And part of it is caused by all the hot air from Al Gore.
I know it is a lame way of saying we know we could be wrong but this is why we are not. They could be hitting us as well however because of the vegitaion etc of earth we do not have a very dusty surface which means that there is not that much being thrown into the atmosphere causing the same "greenhouse effects" that we are seeing on Mars.By the way, what ever happened to the flap about the ozone hole in Antarctica. Did it close up and go away? If not, why is it no longer being talked about?
Did a bit of research on this and it seems that the main ingredient in spray cans meant to be causing the holes in the ozone are no longer used. I would say the holes have started to close up by now. If they have not i would say the reason we have not been hearing anything about it is because there is no money to be made off it.
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Believe it or not planting a tree would be a more effective method of reducing CO2 emissions then shooting down a Lear Jet. Planes do not release CO2 into the atmosphere but rather Sulfur. Sulfur was actually looked at about a decade ago as a method of combatting global warming because it reflects the heat of the sun. The downfall of sulfur is that it causes acid rain and this is why flying 1000's of planes at once was rejected as a solution for global warming.
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The amount Currently being released into the atmosphere is not anywhere near enough to start killing trees. The main problem with Acid rain is corrosion in bridges and other structures.
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If the causes and effects are still debatable, is it worth a substantial portion of a country's productivity and people's standards of living to be sacrificed for a "cure"?
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If the causes and effects are still debatable, is it worth a substantial portion of a country's productivity and people's standards of living to be sacrificed for a "cure"?
In some cases then i think the answer is Yes. In the case of Global warming however i think the answer is No. There has not been any solid evidence presented by anyone to say that Global Warming is caused by man and is not a natural occurance.
BTW 800 posts!
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The amount Currently being released into the atmosphere is not anywhere near enough to start killing trees. The main problem with Acid rain is corrosion in bridges and other structures.
Actually, its killing trees in forests in scandinavia, scotland and siberia
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Well there you go learn something new every day then.
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